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David had his own behind the scenes issues on Falcon Crest and was dismissed; the show didn’t even bother to wrap up his story lol but I’ll save it for the FC thread.

Michael Fairman quoted SON 🤣😂 https://michaelfairmantv.com/ratings-the-young-and-the-restless-hits-five-month-high-in-total-viewers/2023/12/01/

Who exactly owns these days anyway, just Sharon? I remember for a while it kept trading hands between Nick & Sharon, Mac & Kevin, I think even Amber…? Yikes. Let us not forget everyone gathered at Crimson Lights for Christmas 2014 to save it from Victor’s wrecking ball…to which Victor had a change of heart and agreed that Crimson Lights should last forever 🤣🤣🤣 In regards to the Eric’s death spoilers, there widespread speculation that Finn is going to going to save Eric’s life based on his research.

Awww what a cute movie. Holy cow though Christopher looked like he was 90 years old and sun burnt. Loni did rock that silver hair for real; the wig made her look like Linda Evans. What kind of soap opera was Great Lakes supposed to be anyways lol? Sounded like a mashup of GL, Days, PC, with a Loni’s character being a nod to Susan Lucci. Having a live Christmas episode and then becoming a reality soap…please don’t give RC and JG ideas 🤣

Starting with the week of December 4th: zap2it.com Monday, Dec. 4, 2023 on CBS (Fri. Dec. 1st on Global-Canada) Episode #12758 (CBS Season 51, Episode 43) Victor vows revenge. Nikki struggles with her drinking. Jill gives Billy the third degree. Tuesday, Dec. 5, 2023 on CBS (Mon. Dec. 4 on Global-Canada) Episode #12759 (CBS Season 51, Episode 44) Victor warns Devon about making amends with Nate. Victoria faces a tough decision about Claire. Daniel navigates his new normal with Heather. Wednesday, Dec. 6, 2023 on CBS (Tues. Dec. 5 on Global-Canada) Episode #12760 (CBS Season 51, Episode 45) Victor is concerned about Nikki's sobriety. Lily confides in Nick. Tucker schemes to recruit Nate. Thursday, Dec. 7, 2023 on CBS (Wed. Dec. 6 on Global-Canada) Episode #12761 (CBS Season 51, Episode 46) Billy shares unsettling news with Jack. Devon helps Lily during a crisis. Tucker stirs the pot between Jill and Mamie. Friday, Dec. 8, 2023 on CBS (Thurs. Dec. 7 on Global-Canada) Episode #12762 (CBS Season 51, Episode 47) Michael surprises Phyllis. Danny cooks up a romantic night for Christine. Ashley stands her ground with Jack and Billy. And here is B&B: Monday, December 4, 2023 Episode #9160 (Season 37, Episode 51) Donna panics when Eric suffers a medical emergency. Zende confronts RJ about his new place at Forrester. Tuesday, December 5, 2023 Episode #9161 (Season 37, Episode 52) Brooke, Katie and Donna worry about Eric's determination to continue the party as planned. Thorne Forrester returns to Los Angeles at the invitation of his father, Eric. Wednesday, December 6, 2023 Episode #9162 (Season 37, Episode 53) Thorne and Bridget learn the truth about Eric's medical condition. Hiding his illness, Eric kicks off his soiree, making a toast to his family. Thursday, December 7, 2023 Episode #9163 (Season 37, Episode 54) Eric shares a special moment with each of his family members and guests. Li becomes suspicious of why Finn is researching when he should be with Steffy at the Forrester Mansion. Friday, December 8, 2023 Episode #9164 (Season 37, Episode 55) Donna intervenes when she overhears the truth about who really won the fashion showdown. Eric makes a final speech.

I had just wished for a bond between Diane and Summer that drove Phyllis even crazier 🤣 And thanks haha I felt like I missed a beat somewhere. I knew I watched those scenes where Kyle had an abrupt awkward “change of heart” while arguing with Billy while Audra had Kyle in the palm of her hands and called Tucker at the same time. This is where I wish the show hadn’t dropped Noah and Allie.

Thanks I hadn’t seen it before either….as brutally nasty as Tucker was he also came off as so childish lol. How many glasses of wine/whiskey has Tucker smashed or hurled now? 🤣 Kyle’s story is so confusing though about which side he’s actually on. I forgot how much I missed Diane and Summer having scenes together I wished they had teamed up better to take down Audra together.

Had we seen that flashback before? I didn’t recognize it. I know what happened to Tucker and Ashley has been a bit of mystery aside from these flashbacks. It was pretty brutal of Tucker to be that nasty.

Ah Thursday’s episode was a nice welcome return to Abbott family drama. However this show is still filling time with those black & white art house flashbacks? Josh sucks at everything doesn’t he?

I ended up FF’ing through some scenes lol couldn’t handle the screen chewing and non-performances of this Jordan mess. @YRfan23 this whole thing reminded me of the Sarah Smythe story the show did in 2010, and that’s not a good thing. 😂🤣 Nate and Audra totally should have staged takeover of Newman with Tucker in the absence of the Nemans. A bit off to see Billy, Nate, and Audra fret in Crimson Lights when really it should have been Sharon, Summer and Adam while they filled in a clueless Abby.

Wings Hauser has always struck me as a washed up never has been especially with the string of D-movies he did in the late 80’s. Have to agree with @SoapDope about him looking seedy. Houghton, Kerwin, and McGillin are all more recognizable names than Wings, who’s own son at least has some talent.

🤣🤣🤣 I’ve missed your Y&R commentary as it’s always spot on. It’s how I survived the days of Upchuck Pratt 😂 This show has really failed the next generation of Newmans. We finally have a Summer who could be a leading heroine and now she’s banished to a triangle that is an afterthought. As for Claire I don’t see her having a long shelf life either. The whole trend of a psycho character being connected and/or related to a established character or family started back in the days of Kevin, and most of them have ended up dead in the end anyways.

I had to double check today to make sure I wasn’t watching Days 🤣 Today’s 11/28 episode reminds me that while don’t mind an occasional campy story, there has got to be some entertainment value to it. Of course Josh Griffith is boring not an entertaining writer. Instead we got a laughable mess of EB, JM, JEP, and AH all making silly dance moves to show the effects of the poison as a lifeless Hayley Erin gave a boring and odious soliloquy, only to be interrupted by the Jordan who very ineptly revealed her actual deception, just like a silly villain in a kids cartoon would do. Of course I might be more forgiving if Nick dies in a shocking secret unspoiled twist, but we know it’s just a cheap November sleeps stunt. This show should’ve pulled a Days with ED and asked HT to play Victoria for these episodes. MTS was the one bright spot, CZ is fun to see again but there’s not much here, and while I’m glad to see Peck again he does come off a bit rusty. I hope he is given more to do than this.

I do wonder how much influence Bell, who was in Chicago, had in some of those early castings. I seem to recall Bell didn’t know who Braeden was until he saw him on air a few weeks into the role. That said I wonder how many others on Y&R ended up getting the wrath of Conboy like poor Stauffer did.

At @Paul Raven thanks for sharing, I remember seeing this somewhere before, maybe back 500 pages in this thread lol. The Scott Adams character is only mentioned the 1978 synopsis. Snapper set up Nikki with the young intern only on Casey's permission. Nikki couldn't believe he wasn't just interested in her body and felt she was no good to him; Scott convinced her she could be the woman for him if she could change, if she really wanted to. Nikki tried her best with Scott until she slept with her college professor for a grade. Nikki almost dropped out and was going leave town but Brock convinced her to stay in town and in college. Scott is never mentioned in the 1979 synopsis at all; I’m going to guess Stauffer never shared scenes with MTS in the role of Nikki. Interesting situation, sounds like typical Conboy diva behavior. But it sounds like Scott’s story pretty much ended and was only a minor character with nowhere else to go. Interestingly Stauffer later appeared again on Y&R in 1987 in another minor role must have been no hard feelings.

I remember Brandon Stoddard (under a an anagram pseudonym of course) was made a nasty antagonist executive in that Making of A Guilty pleasure TV movie in 2005 🤣 FWIW, when Dex and Alexis fall off the balcony you can see the stage team’s hands ready to catch them below 🙈

Frankly it was a major misstep on the part of Paulsen for allowing Dynasty to end the way it did. First, Paulsen should have been very familiar of how a similar Nazi treasure story flopped at FC during his Lorimar days. Second I know there were Season 10 plans with JC not being included and wanting to bring back Dominique, but Dynasty was flailing in the wind in the ratings; no one got a hint to at least a season finale that settled everything but also left open ended?

There was well written opinion piece about Dynasty’s Season 9 under David Paulsen several years back I may need to dig it up if I can. Obviously having Sable and Monica on the show was definitely a shot in the arm for the show as Beacham stole the show as was the Roger Grimes mystery as it directly involved all the characters. There were some downsides; for me Adam became a complete caricature if he wasn’t already. Sammy Jo became very isolated and her final story with Tanner was cute but felt like an afterthought. Finally, I found it a bit much that as the glitzy 80’s era were over Dallas, FC, and KL chose to have low-key cliffhangers to end the 88-89 season, Dynasty went out in a full blaze of glory with all the over the top Cliffhangers in the series finale.

Nice to see PlutoTV has made it to Season 9 (“No Bones about it” is on right now) and Amazon Prime has it back on again. It’s been years since I did a full rewatch, and I mainly remember Seasons 1-4 and 9 the most. Still to this day never understood why Fallon’s UFO story was carried onto the main show lol. There are still jokes about it in Season 9, yikes!

Would Vivian on Days fit this bill? Originally she was an older woman who clung to grandnephew Nicholas and surrogate son Phillip as she had no children of her own; yet later on Vivian was given retcon sons Quinn, Stefan, and Jake. It also happened to Alex on GL with Lujack and then later Nick. I was surprised GL never introduced any other lost kids of Alex.

Oh no doubt, but I had really wanted Mariah to just be Cassie, whisked away by Ian Ward as revenge. Same thing with Hilary/Amanda, these twin retcons are just obnoxious. Bringing back a character who was a presumed dead baby in soaps isn’t new, I mean Marland was highly successful with the twist of Sabrina Hughes being alive and well. But we all know Josh Griffith is definitely no Doug Marland so brace for the worst, especially since this story seems like it’s about to move at lightning speed here into December.

Well the next back from the dead characters I want back are Brad and Colleen. They could easily say they had to fake their deaths because the Nazis were back after them 🤣 AND have Traci know they were just faking their deaths, she’s known all along they were alive she just had to play the part lol. But you’ve got a point. However retcon Abbott characters like Theo and Allie don’t last, but it seems like Newman ones like Mariah do.

I was also going to add the Simon/Katie mess lead to Katie’s downfall/comeuppance at the WOAK at the Endicott Awards, and then Simon & Katie developed into a popular coupling once they were finally paired together late 2000-02. I never understood why the show later decimated their chemistry every time Simon returned. Another story that comes to mind is on Days the whole Subsex/Subspawn story with the JT/Zach paternity and baby switch was widely loathed and decried until the story’s final weeks/months when the story came to a surprisingly satisfying conclusion. On Y&R a lot of people found the Veronica Landers as Sarah the Maid story ridiculous but the moment Veronica lost it and shot both Joshua and Nikki, the rest is history.

Thanks I must have not paid attention to that lol the last time I remember seeing her was when Mariah and Tessa consulted her about Aria’s hearing.

No JT was revealed alive along the following year in 2019 but he was committed to a psychiatric institution following a brain tumor removal or something. JT was seen earlier this year when Elena contacted him via face time when Elena and Audra schemed to bring back JT to break up Nate and Victoria, but the whole plot was quickly dropped and nothing else happened. Is Elena even on this show anymore?