Everything posted by Xanthe
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Another World Discussion Thread
Jake had not known of Kevin's existence until he came to Bay City and revealed that they shared a father. But then again Ben had not seen Jake since they were children when Jake first came to Bay City as Victoria’s advance man and there was no mention of their being in later contact that I can think of. The short answer is that for many years Jake had been the only relevant McKinnon and they were not trying to bring back the original family, they were just focused on Jake. If they had presented Sean as Ben's son I would have questioned why he wouldn't have gone to his grandparents in Minnesota unless Ben had also come back to Bay City. I think that is true but there would have had to be so many things that went differently in 1985 and 1986 for that to pan out. Blaine and Sally had been friendly when they were bad girls so they could have picked up that relationship. Blaine could have had conflict with Donna over more than Donna's interest in Sandy. She should have had an opinion about Brittany one way or another. And probably a thousand Rachel-related things I can't think of.
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It's so hard to know, really. I have always imagined that if Laura Malone had remained in the role then maybe the character would have persisted. Maybe they would have recast Sandy and kept them on the canvas with Maggie and Alex for longer. With regard to Ben, I know they did tell him Mary was alive and they even teased that he might return then but nothing ever came of it.
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Oh, thank you for this. A pity it's only partial. The AWHP has Laura Malone's last day as July 31, 1984 but this is dated August 3. I would have guessed this could be August 6, only because Catlin sitting up in the back seat of Ada's car was in my memory as a Friday freeze frame/cliffhanger. But I suppose it could have been Thursday. Laura Malone does not look too fat at all. Those bastards. I had not remembered Ross spying on Julia in Cecile's house. I guess it was her research into Catlin and Sally that made it so important that he follow her to NYC to murder her.
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RIP: In Memoriam Thread
According to the AWHP, her character in the movie Light of Day watches Another World. http://www.anotherworldhomepage.com/spinoff3.html
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The Politics Thread
Sounds a bit dog-whistle-y, insinuating her education doesn't count. Trump has only a Bachelors of Science (Wharton; not even an MBA). Biden also has a JD (Syracuse). Truman took some bookkeeping and typing courses at college but did not finish. That's not even thinking about Republicans' what-have-you-done-for-me-lately self-educated hero hero Lincoln.
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The Media/Journalism Thread
They're [CNN] fact-checking it right now.
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The Politics Thread
Apparently Nate Holden says he was with Donald Trump in a helicopter crash and no one mentioned Kamala Harris. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/09/trump-plane-crash-california-00173487
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Another World Discussion Thread
I'm not sure whether this actor looks familiar or if he just looks similar to someone familiar. Anyone recognize him? This is from an episode in July 1991. The character is some guy that Cass and Kathleen pretend that they are interested in chartering a boat from in order to try to find out where Taylor Benson might have gone. The character may be called Ruskin.
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The Politics Thread
This helicopter flight lawsuit threat is so bizarre. I gather from CNN that Trump considers that it proves that Willie Brown told him "terrible things" about Kamala but the idea that Brown's denial enrages him so much that he is threatening to sue people is plain weird.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Lemay certainly comments in Eight Years in Another World on how dissatisfied he was working with subwriters. He talks about firing experienced subwriters in order to hire novices (hoping he can shape them according to his preferences) and then firing the novices and hiring a cowriter, and then he gives the impression that he fired the cowriter and did all the writing himself (as well as kept all of the money budgeted for subwriters) because no one else wrote what he wanted and he was rewriting so much anyway. I agree that if Lemay didn't use the staccato style it seems unlikely that he would have given those instructions to dialogue writers. He does mention "specific guidelines" but "contradictory situations" sounds more like plot than style?
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Another World Discussion Thread
I'm not sure about all time periods, but definitely the ones I can think of were all packaged consistently for the NBC soaps -- this clip had Another World and Santa Barbara under the "it will excite you" theme. And I forget the theme for the set of ads they did with Matt and Josie and the balloons and Sam and Amanda where he drops ice down her cleavage, but that same set included couples from Santa Barbara as well. Of course those were generic and had zero to do with the plot. Because of simulcasting, where the Canadian networks take over the US station on the cable broadcast, I rarely saw the NBC promos. When Search For Tomorrow was ending it had no Canadian network so I was occasionally able to see one right before Days came on, but most shows had a Canadian network.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Thanks for this. I was trying to place this since so many of these promos were edited to be misleading. Looks like it is early August 1986 when Cass, Kathleen, and Cecile were held hostage by Reginald ("Mr Lasalle")'s lackey Ludwig. Maybe Cecile threatened Cass at some point but the real danger was Ludwig and it's just as likely that it was Ludwig Kathleen was talking to.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I was very disappointed in her Donna. It wasn't all her fault, part of it was absolutely the writing, but after Anna Stuart there was something missing. Philece did not bring the patrician air that made Donna's snobbery convincing. But Donna at this time was in the shadow of Reginald, or maybe I should say that Donna had been replaced in the conflict with Reginald by Michael. Reginald was Michael's enemy and Donna was the wife Michael was protecting. In the meantime Michael and Donna's love story was undermined by the way John's backstory forced him between them. That doesn’t even get into the messed up rape angle juxtaposed with the current-day lustful temptation story which I have ranted about here at every opportunity.
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Thanks! "Cass" at this point is of course the imposter Rex Allingham. I was pleased to find the below even though it is the Italian dubbed version. The first 2.25 hours are from late 1983/early 1984 with Kim Morgan Greene's Nicole and then it jumps a few years to at least 1987 with Anne Howard's Nicole. I don't understand enough Italian to really follow the details but I enjoy seeing the 1983/1984 cast. I do wish I knew what Cecile's visit to the fashion house[?] was about, or Jamie working on the green screen until suddenly success! 5 years could be too much when you're calculating whether she could be the mother of a pair of twins about to reach the age of majority. But there was enough wiggle room there that I don't think age was Philece's biggest problem as Donna.
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The Media/Journalism Thread
I don't doubt that the press can spin this if they want to, but part of me wonders whether Trump has confused Kamala with Nikki Haley. I mean he doesn't care about facts and will say as many contradictory things as he likes in order to attack other people, but that was so perplexing.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Buy low, sell high. Absolutely. That's why I think it's useful to be transparent about the source. If the novelizations had made the same claim that Mike Bauer was Michael Randolph's namesake we could not be sure whether that came from the show or not, but in the absence of other evidence it might make it more likely -- or at least explain why a fan might believe it. Even in the show retcons can of course provide contradictory facts at different points in time. And I know the AWHP has some facts recorded with a note that at one point in time the show said X but later changed it to Y, because both are true.
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For what it's worth, I looked into the Soaps & Serials novelization (#3, "Affairs of the Moment") and there was nothing there claiming that Michael and Marianne were named after anyone specific. Not conclusive but it doesn't add any weight to the Mike Bauer theory. I skimmed the Kate Lowe Kerrigan novelizations as well but they are very focused on Rachel/Alice/Steve and basically skip over Pat in this time period.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Was he treating Lisa? I thought they just knew her because they were both helping the police with the investigation. He was definitely Donna's shrink and then it turned out that he had been Lisa's mother's therapist which had started his obsession with Lisa and her virginity. I have to disagree that that was a good violence against women story. Number one it was too focused on a virgin/whore fantasy in which the only thing that "saved" Lisa was the fact that she had been raped by someone else when she was 14. The serial killer's pattern wasn't anything that exists in nature -- he was obsessed with a young girl for years and eventually started killing prostitutes before starting to kill slightly older women who were the furthest thing from sex workers and one male student until he finally kidnapped his now adult target Lisa. I'm not saying that actors can't give good performances in a salacious story, but to me a good story about violence against women would have to reckon somewhat realistically with misogyny, power dynamics, issues of who knows what when, & the challenges of holding abusers accountable. There could be a realistic story of a therapist taking advantage of a patient but this wasn't that.
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Margaret dePriest seemed to go for serial killers. She wrote both the Sin Stalker and Fax Newman. The thing about violence against women is that there can be a good way to tell those stories if it is not about titillation or punishing a bad girl so she can repent. I don't know whether I can think of a storyline on AW off the top of my head that did a good job of it -- maybe parts of Sharlene's history, although the split personality might have been a distraction at times.
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I thought perhaps Rachel was a bit saintly in an earlier scene (on an earlier day) when she advised Jamie that he needed to be kind to Mac and continue to consider him as a father. But clearly at this point even she and Russ are on excellent terms and nothing is unforgivable. Thanks. It seems that they were born quite far apart in time as well. Cory Hobson/Ewing was born about 20 years before Cory Hutchins.