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Thanks for this. I was trying to place this since so many of these promos were edited to be misleading. Looks like it is early August 1986 when Cass, Kathleen, and Cecile were held hostage by Reginald ("Mr Lasalle")'s lackey Ludwig. Maybe Cecile threatened Cass at some point but the real danger was Ludwig and it's just as likely that it was Ludwig Kathleen was talking to.

Small correction -- Mark was a lawyer and a politician, not a doctor.

I was very disappointed in her Donna. It wasn't all her fault, part of it was absolutely the writing, but after Anna Stuart there was something missing. Philece did not bring the patrician air that made Donna's snobbery convincing. But Donna at this time was in the shadow of Reginald, or maybe I should say that Donna had been replaced in the conflict with Reginald by Michael. Reginald was Michael's enemy and Donna was the wife Michael was protecting. In the meantime Michael and Donna's love story was undermined by the way John's backstory forced him between them. That doesn’t even get into the messed up rape angle juxtaposed with the current-day lustful temptation story which I have ranted about here at every opportunity.

Thanks! "Cass" at this point is of course the imposter Rex Allingham. I was pleased to find the below even though it is the Italian dubbed version. The first 2.25 hours are from late 1983/early 1984 with Kim Morgan Greene's Nicole and then it jumps a few years to at least 1987 with Anne Howard's Nicole. I don't understand enough Italian to really follow the details but I enjoy seeing the 1983/1984 cast. I do wish I knew what Cecile's visit to the fashion house[?] was about, or Jamie working on the green screen until suddenly success! 5 years could be too much when you're calculating whether she could be the mother of a pair of twins about to reach the age of majority. But there was enough wiggle room there that I don't think age was Philece's biggest problem as Donna.

I don't doubt that the press can spin this if they want to, but part of me wonders whether Trump has confused Kamala with Nikki Haley. I mean he doesn't care about facts and will say as many contradictory things as he likes in order to attack other people, but that was so perplexing.

Buy low, sell high. Absolutely. That's why I think it's useful to be transparent about the source. If the novelizations had made the same claim that Mike Bauer was Michael Randolph's namesake we could not be sure whether that came from the show or not, but in the absence of other evidence it might make it more likely -- or at least explain why a fan might believe it. Even in the show retcons can of course provide contradictory facts at different points in time. And I know the AWHP has some facts recorded with a note that at one point in time the show said X but later changed it to Y, because both are true.

For what it's worth, I looked into the Soaps & Serials novelization (#3, "Affairs of the Moment") and there was nothing there claiming that Michael and Marianne were named after anyone specific. Not conclusive but it doesn't add any weight to the Mike Bauer theory. I skimmed the Kate Lowe Kerrigan novelizations as well but they are very focused on Rachel/Alice/Steve and basically skip over Pat in this time period.

Was he treating Lisa? I thought they just knew her because they were both helping the police with the investigation. He was definitely Donna's shrink and then it turned out that he had been Lisa's mother's therapist which had started his obsession with Lisa and her virginity. I have to disagree that that was a good violence against women story. Number one it was too focused on a virgin/whore fantasy in which the only thing that "saved" Lisa was the fact that she had been raped by someone else when she was 14. The serial killer's pattern wasn't anything that exists in nature -- he was obsessed with a young girl for years and eventually started killing prostitutes before starting to kill slightly older women who were the furthest thing from sex workers and one male student until he finally kidnapped his now adult target Lisa. I'm not saying that actors can't give good performances in a salacious story, but to me a good story about violence against women would have to reckon somewhat realistically with misogyny, power dynamics, issues of who knows what when, & the challenges of holding abusers accountable. There could be a realistic story of a therapist taking advantage of a patient but this wasn't that.

Margaret dePriest seemed to go for serial killers. She wrote both the Sin Stalker and Fax Newman. The thing about violence against women is that there can be a good way to tell those stories if it is not about titillation or punishing a bad girl so she can repent. I don't know whether I can think of a storyline on AW off the top of my head that did a good job of it -- maybe parts of Sharlene's history, although the split personality might have been a distraction at times.

I thought perhaps Rachel was a bit saintly in an earlier scene (on an earlier day) when she advised Jamie that he needed to be kind to Mac and continue to consider him as a father. But clearly at this point even she and Russ are on excellent terms and nothing is unforgivable. Thanks. It seems that they were born quite far apart in time as well. Cory Hobson/Ewing was born about 20 years before Cory Hutchins.

The scene is about 24 minutes in in this long compilation.

I tend to agree. I don't see any description that supports Mike Bauer as namesake and also he had been gone for a couple of years by the time Michael Randolph was born. I suppose there could be a case to be made that in the story Bauer had become a fond memory but it seems like a bit of a reach. But I would be happy to be proved wrong if someone does have evidence that Pat and John were thinking of Michael Bauer in 1970. The difference though seems to be that we can definitely point to an onscreen moment where Matthew's name was discussed. See Dec 18, 1980. http://www.anotherworldhomepage.com/aw1980de.html

Don't be too impressed -- I relied on the AWHP babies page to refresh my memory on some of these. I always think what a shame it was that most of these kids were written out before they could be SORASed to high school. http://www.anotherworldhomepage.com/babies.html

Were Alex and Xander both born on the show? I think they are excluded regardless by my second criterion, that there be no obvious different nickname. It's relatively common for soap babies to be named in honour of another character. On AW, Sandy Cory named his son Alexander but they called him Alex. Jamie was called after Jim Matthews. Wally Curtin was named after his father Walter. Baby Steven was named after Steve Frame. Grant Perry Todd was named after his grandfather who would die by the end of the year and the recently deceased Perry Hutchins. Jeanne Ewing was called after Larry's mother who either died right before or soon after his daughter's birth. Brittany's baby was named Peter Reginald officially but she secretly called him Little C. One way or another they avoided having two living characters with exactly the same name.

True. I wonder if that is the only instance of more than one baby born on a soap (as opposed to being introduced later in life) being given the same first name and with no scope for different versions of the name for everyday use. I suppose there are probably shows that did get cluttered up with Jrs and IIIs that I can't think of. But although Cory Hobson and Cory Hutchins were both named after Mac neither is related to him by blood.

It also essentially eliminated any chance that Cory Ewing (or Hobson or Delaney) would return as a character in the future. None of that stuck with me. Scanning through the AWHP synopses for 1998 and 1999 made me realize that I had also completely forgotten about Scott Guthrie who claimed to be Carl's brother. That seemed like rather a mess.

I had forgotten about this but before the introduction of Lumina and Jordan there was a character called Zak Wilder who insinuated himself into Lila and then Sofia's lives. Lila was about to give birth to Jasmine. Subsequently Zak was revealed to be Jordan's lackey. Jordan is apparently the author of a book that is *200* years old. He had Lila spy on the Corys.

The parts of the story that flashed back to the relationship of Amalie and Jordan Stark appeared to be set at least 100 years earlier -- they did not look 20th century at all. And Jordan Stark had a facial disfigurement that seemed to hint at a kind of Phantom of the Opera vibe. Then there was a kind of Secret Garden angle with the closed-up walled garden on the Cory property.

It does make me wonder about the sequence of events -- when they start planting the seeds for the appearance of the new character vs when the actor is cast. Edward (or Édouard?) Gérard was frequently referred to as Monsieur, and Michaud Christophe who was later revealed to be his son Albert was played by the francophone (Québécois) actor Serge Dupire. Monsieur was mentioned at least 2 months before he appeared.

I am more peeved about Cory and Elizabeth than I am about Michelle and Bridget. I understand the HEA (romance-speak for Happily Ever After) symbolism for the end of the show where Victoria and Jake were presented as destined soulmates (even though we have to ignore a lot of his betrayals to get there). And in a way they were trying to do the same with Carl and Rachel but since it was during the show it was worse in my opinion because it didn't do a good job of creating story or linking characters. At least Bridget and Michelle provided an excuse for a tiny bit of Donna and Marley in Jake's life.

I suppose they could have had a mandate to reduce the budget overall though. Sometimes it is obvious when one character slots into the place of another but it depends on why the previous character was written out. Otherwise maybe they paid for raises for the existing cast. 1982 was the year of the movie people, wasn't it? I don't really remember how it played out onscreen but reading about it always reminds me of Lesoleil in 1985 -- large crowd of unrelated strangers who create a bunch of temporary drama and then move on. Thinking about Lesoleil, I always wonder why they cast John Saxon in the part of a character who seemed like he was always intended to be French. Victoria had nearly caught up to her by the end -- Steven with Jamie, Kirkland with Grant, and then last-minute spillover twins with Jake on ATWT. I tend to take a very broad view of actors playing different roles in the same universe -- if they give a good enough performance it doesn’t really matter. I do think it's a problem that they brought back an actor whose on set behaviour was apparently significantly bad but I would argue that regardless of who played Shane it was weak writing to force him onto Victoria with Ryan's eyes and then twist him into Bobby Reno. But maybe I am biased because I never thought Sam and Amanda were that interesting so there was no emotional Sam resonance affecting the Shane story for me. (ETA: Maybe I have reversed the order -- Bobby first, then Shane?)

I have such fond memories of the Bob Newhart Show and although I had some issues with the series Newhart they were completely washed away by its ending.

According to this summary, Felice Camargo (Victoria Wyndham's sister) played Ford's daughter in the series. I don't recall having heard of that connection. https://nostalgiacentral.com/television/tv-by-decade/tv-shows-1950s/woman-with-a-past/

Maybe some of Ariana Muenker's videos will include him. Marianne definitely interacts with him according to the 1976 synopses.

There was 99 44/100% dead from 1974. https://youtu.be/byyQSmf9wqU?si=iiTQc7lwQyPHzdZM