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It was no different when Steve refused to play a romantic lead for decades. No one is asking for Amanda Setton to disrobe in front of a packed set and grind down like some sort of Albert Alarr situation. Just to be able to dress like a young woman and play out some soap opera romantic scenes with her love interests.

It's the same preciousness and favoritism that allowed the ending tag of the live eps in 2015 to be just Nicolas Bechtel as little Spencer dancing around the sets a la Stewie's sexy parties on Family Guy, like he'd eaten 3 whole Pixie Stix. I could not believe that was what they were ending the day on. I believe a lot in fostering a family environment behind the scenes on these shows, and I actually really enjoy kids having a key role on soaps when the roles are written well and the kids are able to act (as was the case in the '90s). But the stuff with Bechtel running rampant, or Violet mugging through scenes or whatever else is not that. It's just Frank seeming like an overly indulgent Dr. Dolittle (Dr. Dolittle fostered animals, but you know what I mean).

She seemed to complain about just about everything though, rest in peace.

BLQ is an active and vibrant young woman who is also succeeding in business. She should be getting into business shenanigans, screwball capers and (yes) sexy adventures with a lot of different people, friends or potential lovers. She should be Lucy in her prime. I can think of so much I'd love to do with her, particularly with Amanda in the role. Instead she is now a cop's wife basically wearing bloomers half the time who we rarely see intimate with her husband who has the look and personality of an overgrown 15 year old Eagle Scout. That is the issue.

I was very impressed with the material posted from this a couple years ago and always wanted to see the whole storyline. I think Lucinda went back to her family home after this?

Oh, that's so sad. They did have a good rapport onscreen.

John, you know as well as I do that when they hired Billy Miller it was as a recast Jason. But that is not the point. You're not engaging with what I'm saying. I understand that you are a fan of the show through thick and thin and just want it to do well and you want to keep watching. You are entitled to that. I have watched this show off and on for over 30 years myself. I want it to do well. But people are allowed to critique the show, these actors and their behavior onscreen and off and yes, sometimes want them gone. We're all aware that many of the actors are very nice people who may be fun in interviews or to look at or communicate with on their social media. But that doesn't make them our friends, and that doesn't make them people who have to be protected. We're all just consumers here of a product and the product is this TV show. And people are allowed to feel a certain way about it. There's nothing you can do about that.

It also goes to her wardrobe. I could totally understand AS being sensitive after giving birth (or for what Kirsten Storms has talked about going through), but that was quite some time ago. Kirsten's wardrobe (and more importantly, performance) have leveled up considerably in recent months and she feels like a vital and vibrant player to me for the first time in years. AS' BLQ still is often dressed like a much more mature woman and she is clearly unwilling to commit to the romance or intimacy portions of a soap opera. I think Amanda's often done a fine job in the role. But if she can't do love scenes, she can go. This isn't a situation like Jason where not only does he have decades on the show under his belt, has at times been insanely popular and plays a character with major brain damage who very rarely gets close to or sexually intimate with anyone (and therefore, IIRC has had a grand total of five sexual partners since the year 1995 - though I'd still kill Jason off). This is supposed to be a vibrant, healthy young woman ready for romance in 2024. If she's not willing to play that part in full, she can leave. And I would've fired Swickard and killed Chase already, just because he's boring. He was recast.

We have for decades.

I don't give a fúck what Korte does, John. I'm not watching this show anymore effective probably this week.

It's clear from the interview this was meant to be open-ended and the beginning of more. Sad.

Nah. Fire them.

I saw. Another legend.

That all being said, they have still leaned heavily on Laura's new role as mayor to make her a major and active part of a ton of canvas-wide story happening all across the canvas, almost like she's a police chief. Not just in one sweeps period, but for years. That and the heavy use of the vets like Kevin, Mac, Felicia, etc. in recent years are the things I can consistently credit the last tiresome decade for getting right.

I don't agree at all that Laura is not prominent these last few years - she is mayor and has been central in a ton of key story in the last few years, shockingly so. We all (and by all I mean virtually everyone in this conversation) discussed it that positive evolution for her prominence just last year during the February sweeps period as one of the few consistent bright spots of the show in recent years. It's only the last few months she's been on a lot less. I find her pairing with Kevin boring as hell myself but it's been reasonably popular.

I don't blame LW for any of this.

I've only watched some of his tenure on ATWT in '86 but I never saw him sweat, honestly. Until now I just assumed he had gotten the hang of daytime post-OLTL. It's too bad because I thought he did very good work as Earl.

I have my doubts about FV ever wanting her on contract. The story I'd always heard is that Genie dipped abruptly in 2013, the anniversary year after returning with grand fanfare because (allegedly) FV tried to put her on the same recurring corps he keeps most of the vets on. (This may also have been a sticking point with their approaching Stephen Nichols to return as Stefan at the time.) She passed and walked in the fall at the end of her short contract, kiboshing Ron's grand L&L reunion plans which TG was very against anyway. Later, they repeatedly tried to either get her back without a contract or drop her to recurring and each time Genie bucked. Whether or not that came from the network, it was something FV has attempted multiple times, only grudgingly offering her a contract. It has been his policy since OLTL to keep as many vets on regular recurring as possible to cut costs.

People are allowed to have opinions about actors regardless of their resumes. We weren't all born yesterday on this forum that is what, almost 20 years old and are not only just now having these facts magically dropped upon us. This is not all news to us.

I'm just waiting for the other connect to go back up.

GH's own Demi Moore (a.k.a. Jackie Templeton #1) is getting major rave reviews at Cannes for her new body horror film The Substance, with Margaret Qualley and Dennis Quaid.

Can't tell if she's just being messy about the recent idiocy (and possibly CVE resuming his old role at some point) or if it's something new we have no concept of. I assumed the former at first.

Yep, this is it (timestamped):

We all know it was only a matter of time before Chase took a bullet in the line. Time to speed that up. BLQ, well I think Amanda can do great work if she wants to but I'm not here for Brook Lynn as Agnes of God. So either she can change things up or she can go too.