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I didn't like her either but she has come a long, long, long way since in TV and film. She's very talented.

She did appear a number of times, yes. Carla was older and not quite as popular as Angie and Jesse, but I do think they could've easily found a role in the LOV firmament for her and Sadie, be it at the hospital or with Carla continuing in law and adding some young relatives for them (or Josh Hall). Would it have been as strong as what Angie, Frankie and Jacob became, probably not, but it would've kept the characters in the ABC audience consciousness for longer. Which, as Debbi and Darnell's time at LOV and TC proved, went a long way down the road. Of course the same can be said for Linda Gottlieb, etc.'s apparent attempts to get Holly to appear on OLTL in '92 or '93 for the 25th anniversary, which she turned down.

There is another '75 episode on YT posted several years ago, IIRC (with Tom Berenger, Kathy Glass and Ellen Holly as well as Dorrie Kavanaugh's Cathy Craig).

It is very juvenile and seems like something this regime has always loved to do (even before PM came and went) just to go with a very cliche vision of Tracy. Yes, the writing has upheld her in some ways recently but these scenes and the rest of the household/Deception rolling their eyes and going 'ugh, Tracy' has continued ad nauseam. It drives me nuts and I don't care about Sasha enough to tolerate it. And no, I do not believe anyone in town will buy that Jason just randomly catted around to knock young Sasha up. LW sells it with Brennan but she always sells everything. The dude is still just a lame dayplayer to me with no reason to still exist, same as Natalia.

I think she's great!

Wow. I never thought I'd see Brian Kendall outside of those voice clips from some years back. Martin Grey's amazing fluctuating accent is just a very deep cut.

Mark Consuelos, Mr. Kelly Ripa and Mateo on AMC, is appearing in Scream 7 (along with Y&R's Mckenna Grace, now a major young scream queen in her own right).

I can't say I'm totally surprised given his appearance, sadly. I'm sorry to have to break the news. He discusses it in the last 5-10 mins of the show.

I hate to be the one to drop in with this, but has it been mentioned that at the end of Locher's interview Justin Deas informs folks he has stage 4 lung cancer?

Allegedly she left at the end of '78, so I think they just thought she had a good run. I imagine if the show had continued Ron would've brought her back insane and played by Christine Tudor or something eventually. I still remember Tony and Kavanaugh's Cathy's 'meet cute' in the '75 eps that went up a few years ago, clashing about politics and feminism. They seem to spark well until he compares her to a Saigon hooker. Ah, the '70s. How you get from this guy (who was apparently quite popular) to Denny Albee from Edge of Night was beyond me before but it really is now.

That one cracked me up. I would say Jennifer Harmon, who at least projects much older even if she wasn't. From what we've seen of her Dorrie Kavanaugh looks a bit younger.

I do like Kathy Glass in this and the other eps with her I've seen, and I understand why she was apparently quite popular as a young heroine. But I think Brynn Thayer is the Jenny that could clearly go the distance more matured (though Glass doing so might've been interesting too), and I wonder if Judith Light might well have wiped Glass' Jenny out. I'd be very curious to see Glass opposite JL, as they did apparently overlap. The contrast would certainly be much more striking re: good and 'bad' sister. Were OLTL still around I would have BT's Jenny visit again, as they always apparently intended her 'death' to just be a device to keep her offscreen so the focus could be on David in '98.

The worst is the one in the early '80s right before he gets killed off. IIRC a lot of us didn't even know about him for years because even the soap mags, books, etc. had forgotten him. Allegedly Ponzini and Erika had quite a romance early on, though that may just be rumor.

More is up now from the same user. Featuring a very young Wanda and Anna (yes, Doris Belack) and Jim Craig.

It is wild to me that they had Jack Armstrong playing both Greg Nelson and (very awkwardly) Kevin Buchanan on OLTL ten years apart, lol. Kevin was a tiny child in the '80s.

How many people's domineering parents turned out to be a secret kingpin on AMC in the '80s? Angie's? Brooke's? The list goes on.

I still think that was supposed to be Lillian Hayman as Sadie Gray, based on the story that's come out since that Agnes supposedly tried to get both her and Ellen Holly/Carla on the show to keep them employed. She used LOV as a safe harbor for many favored actors, characters and concepts. In the case of Angie/Debbi and the Hubbards it worked. I wish it had for the Grays. To get back on topic, I will say I thought early Noah and Julia was great and both Sydney Penny and KHC were magnetic and raw. By the time they got to the voodoo stuff on the beach and the Disney princess wedding I, like Cobb, had lost interest. He was right that there was no way Noah would have a wedding like that.

Buck was so fine. I still remember half the forum going wild for Phillip Brown in 2020 when we all watched (or in my case, rewatched for the first time since '95) the full arc of the Loving Murders. It's too bad his career and/or life stalled out. I just know that a lot of Angie's early LOV material (which I think is still on YT) featured her clashing with Trucker, who became a paternal figure to 'delinquent' Frankie. I wonder how far ABC would've let them go with it, especially since Trucker was the hottest male lead on that little show at the time. But then Agnes took over as HW again, they brought in Geoffrey Ewing (and later Darnell) and that was that.

Of course, the only reason Debbi got in at Loving and took on such a major role is because the show was inherently weak in terms of leading characters and because Agnes still had a major stake in it. But it worked for the show and for her, and she had good story there - Debbi (and Angie) and Darnell as Jacob/Jesse with her remained in the audience consciousness for the remainder of the '90s, including then hopscotching to PC for several more years as Ellen Burgess while Darnell began to recur as 'Ghost' Jesse in the same timeframe. And they were both remembered when '08 rolled around, which served both them and AMC well. (What's really wild ofc is if you remember that allegedly, Guza and Millee Taggert[?] had initially planned to pair Angie with Trucker.)

That's right, it was. Doesn't change the fact that they utilized her, Darnell and many other Black characters well on Loving. And made a point of doing so at AMC.

Again, I'm not crediting B&E with creating the Black canvas at Loving or hiring Debbi Morgan there. Debbi came on under Taggert/Guza at Loving in '93, IIRC. I am saying B&E, for all their many flaws, had a long history of using characters of color in heavy frontburner story at these shows. Which they did, not only during Loving 1995 (where they did in fact bring on Maggie Rush as Lorraine, along with her daughter) and later at The City with mixed results, but with using many Black characters in AMC '08.

I would argue Michael Storm's brother James (from Dark Shadows, as well as the first Larry) was very slightly hotter, but not by much.

It literally just popped up out of nowhere in my phone notifications lol. I'd never seen the channel before. I was amazed I was the first to get on it.

NAC is a working actor in high demand. I don't think it's a horrible thing that he managed to miss an old co-worker's birthday party. They're not joined at the hip IRL.

Probably, although Cathy was supposed to be a bit younger than Jennifer Harmon projects IMO. And Riley was early '20s tops.