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Brooke and Sydney could have been friends and fellow schemers especially with their mutual dislike of Amanda.

Didn't it come out later that Katie was lying about Lyla neglecting her?

I thought the writing for Beth improved in the last year or so of the show. I think I understood what they show was going for with Beth and Coop, but the execution was all wrong. I did think Lillian and Buzz was interesting choice as a couple, but I always thought that the coupling was due to the fact that both characters were single. Though I did enjoy Hawk being jealous of Lillian and Buzz with a few scenes mentioning their former relationship and the graveside visit by Lillian to Maureen was long over-due and needed. Wasn't there a scene where Buzz's temper got out of hand and he accidently hit Lillian? I often wonder if more was suppose to come out of that given Lillian's past marriage to Bradley, but then they were cancelled so it was forgotten? I do think Billy and Holly were an interesting mix especially with the opposites attract possibility. However, it would have seemed like Vanessa/Billy part deux. I thought Vanessa was on the show during that brief attempt at a pairing, but married to Matt? That would have been an interesting foursome given that Holly helped saved Matt and Vanessa's daughter's life, plus Vanessa/Billy were formerly married. I do think the Nursery Rhyme Stalker story was a little too over the top especially when rumours originally had Holly becoming attached to baby Maureen and kidnapping her. That would have seemed more character-driven, and not so over the top plot heavy.. imho.

I think the Labine's were bought in to write up the mob stuff since they wrote it heavily into RH and GH. The problem was that both of those shows took place in NYC or the NY area where you could see mob activity happen. Had GL taken place in Chicago, it would have made sense to show mob action.

I wouldn't be surprised if true. You could totally tell in the reunion that she looked seriously done with the women as opposed to the other reunions where she was either having fun, being hurt, or being pissed.

Both Cynthia and Kandi have had storylines independent of Nene.. and I don't see that changing in season 7. Porsha's main story was Kenya.. but Kenya has a bigger story with Nena so Porsha isn't needed.

I always liked him, and felt sorry that he was caught up in that family. I was hoping his positive showing on DWTS's a few years ago might have helped his confidence. Stress eating can do anyone in.

I am curious about the new upcoming previews for the rest of OC's season though I'm hoping Shannon's meltdown will still be included. Based on the first two episodes of Danielle and Lizzie, I can see why Lizzie got the housewife spot and Danielle didn't. Perhaps Danielle realized she needed to bring it and picked Tamra to bring it with since there were reports that the two go at it in Bali.. hence why Tamra is saying Danielle is a fame whore and such. I also see that OC will not be on next week, and I'm wondering if the producers are re-editing some episodes since reaction to the first few episodes were lukewarm to intrigued.

So far, I can see why Lizzie was picked over Danielle to be a main housewife.. plus, Tamra mentioned that Lizzie is a mean drunk.. but then who isn't in Orange County

Saw an except of next weeks OC, and Vicki and Lizzie do not get along with Lizzie basically saying in her TH that she seems insecure.. the more insecure one is the louder they get. That describes Vicki to a tee

Based on watching moments of the Atlanta reunion, it is too toxic. While Atlanta is doing well ratings-wise, Jersey used to do stronger ratings as well but after three seasons of no cast changes, it became stale and boring. Atlanta does need to shuffle the cast a bit, but not too drastic. They used to change cast members out, but the ratings weren't as high as they are now so it will be a little dicey cast changing. One wrong housewife, and the show can falter... look at BH. The only show that can get away with cast shuffling is the OC, because they have never been a clear ratings winner nor loser. They seem to always fall in the middle, and for a 9 season show.. that's pretty good.

I was surprised that aviva wasn't in the credits either. Ramona missed two episodes, but she was still in the credits. I did hear Aviva didn't go to the Berkshires, and I also read somewhere during filming that she didn't go to Montana either due to allergies. I have allergies myself so I could believe it to be true.

I am perturbed that Porsha couldn't control her temper, now we won't get to see what props Kenya would have bought to the season 7 reunion

While I think her comments are uncalled for, isn't it possible for people to change and evolve?

I didn't watch a lot of Atlanta when Kim and Sheree were on, but did either of them hold their own better then Kenya against NeNe?

I watched the last minutes of the Atlanta reunion (while I waited for my housewife show OC to come on), and I think Nene came off badly though miss Kenya wasn't smelling like a rose either. Now, OC time: I always wonder how the OC celebrates the Christmas season since New York always seems elegant and magical, and Chicago is as well At least the OC is tacky when it comes to the holidays like the other times of the year, sometimes consistency is a nice thing. This weeks episode was interesting to me with a full introduction of Lizzie and Danielle... I'm wondering why Danielle was only a friend and not a housewife. She seems nice and her husband seems interesting as well. I did notice a ping of interest between him and Eddie, perhaps this is why Tamra and Danielle eventually don't get along? Lizzie reminds me of a Bratz doll in looks, but she seems actually nice and intelligent thus far. Plus, her line saying that not everyone should have a clothing line was a subtle slam toward Gretchen's purse line Shannon and her husband are uncomfortable to watch, yet very fascinating at the same time. Even though it seems scripted, their marriage issues seem non scripted to me. Vicki at her insurance office cracks me up. Actually anything Vicki cracks me up, and sadly she grew up in a neighboring suburb We are all not like her in the Chicago suburbs, rest assured

Found episodes of season 2 of Vancouver on Youtube. A very toxic show, mostly due to Jody. It makes me wonder what the show would have been like if Jody or Mary were removed from the season 2 cast.

Ah, Danielle... a perfect villianess on New Jersey. She handled the gang up on her during the season 2 reunion like a pro. While I understand why Porsha went after Kenya, I think her throwing a tantrum like a two year old is what turned me off. I watch the housewives to see snarky putdowns, not brawls.

I think Kristen handled both Ramona and Aviva well. Aviva seemed to snap out of her crazy personality when Kristen pointed out that people have told her she was crazy and she is just proving them right. I like that Kristen didn't need to get down and dirty, she just let Ramona and Aviva hang themselves.

Cheap 21, I now know who the person in your signature is! I happen to find the Real housewives of Melbourne on youtube and binge watched 8 episodes in a two day period. I think there is one or two more episodes to the season, but I think my thoughts won't change too much after watching those episodes. Gina: I love her! She seems very laid back, and kind of reminds me of a heavily made up Shockard Channing. While I could understand how she could rub people the wrong way, I don't think the attacks toward her are warranted. Me thinks production had a hand in her being late for tennis match since she did indicate that she said that she was caught at work, and when the women said they didnt hear this, she said then it's a communication issue. I'm thinking she told production she would be late and they didn't tell the other women knowing that if they didn't it would increase the drama factor. Granted she is late, wears high heels, and probably didn't clean up make up in the bathroom.. but I don't think her not owning up to calling Lydia and Andrea the c word makes her any worse then Andrea/Lydia/Jackie for making fun of her behind her back. Jackie: She's annoying, but I could see why she would have an issue with Gina in the first place especially the way Lydia relayed what Gina had told her. I do see that she and Gina warm toward each other later. Though letting angel's advise her on business decisions...umm.. that's a new one Plus, saying her husband is a rock star countless times is a drinking game ready to happen Janet: I'm confused with her sudden shift from liking Gina to wanting to strangle her. In episode 5, she and Gina are having fun.. but in episode 6, she wants to strangle her. Even Gina was confused and blindsided about Janet's anger toward her. There is enough other stuff to like about her, but she needs to lay off the botox. Lydia: The lesser of two evils. She seems to be slightly less harsh toward Gina, but she did stir the pot by blabbing to Jackie about what Gina said.. and twisting it. I like that she is in college, but the way she spoke to her professor shows how disdainful she views authority and shows how superior she thinks she is over others... I bet she will display that toward Andrea one day. Cyka: I love her! She is a peacemaker, wanting to see good in others, which means that she will get dumped on. She has a great husband, and seems close with her son. I do hope she can advise Jackie and husband on business matters. Andrea: What a two faced witch. Nothing likable about her at all. Also, Lisa should have watched how Gina handled the gang up... She was doing her makeup while the women were bickering and ganging up on her LOL I love how delusional Lydia and Andrea were thinking that Gina was afraid of them, but I think she just doesn't care and is willing to watch them hang themselves.. or turn against one another Plus, I wouldn't stay either.. not cause I did something wrong but I figure if you don't want me there then I'll just leave.

The actress only signed on for a six month stint, and she didn't want to do more then that. With that said, I think she was too islanded and didn't really interact all that much with her father, Margo, Bob, or Lisa. I'm not sure if Paul or Andy were on the canvas at the time or not. She was a great actress, but I think the time limit on the contract prevented the show from doing too much with her character.

Porsha offers nothing in terms of brains, personality, and in wealth. At least Kenya has the skill of stirring the pot on her side. Time for a new housewife next season.

When someone says the F word constantly, it doesn't make them trash. I just think it makes them sound uneducated because there are plenty of words to use that has the same meaning as the F word. I think in a fit anger, it's more normal to resort to the quickest word that comes to mind and that is usually the F word. Heather doesn't seem like she spits that word out except if she's angry. Brandi, on the other hand... That said, I would love if Brandi went over to the OC. Tamra and Vicki would make mincemeat out of her.

There is a brief web exclusive clip where Tamra is asked her thoughts on the new housewives. Apparently, Lizzie is a neighbor of hers but that they didn't know each other all that well before filming but that Lizzie is a mean drunk. All she would say about Shannon is that she's nuts. I'm wondering who Shannon is melting down about when she is ranting about the cameras and that the truth will come out. I thought it was Heather, but I'm wondering if it's maybe Tamra.

Vicki didn't disappoint in this episode! With her foot in mouth comments about Oklahoma, trying to surf, making a big deal about her knee being bruised, her driving abilities, and her annoyance of Heather, it was like a gift that kept on giving. This is just the first episode and Vicki is already giving us some new treasures to snark about Tamra was actually being nice, for her anyway. I did like the subtle shade she threw at Gretchen. I'm so glad both Tamra and Vicki are clued in on Heather's snooty ways. Seeing the three in Hawaii, it does make me wish Lydia had been there. I could have seen Lydia laughing it up with Tamra and Vicki while also throwing a little more shade on Miss Heather as well The jury is out on Shannon, though she does come from an upper middle class family. On the one hand, it was nice to see scenes of her on our own because it's nice to see them before the crazy starts, but on the other hand, she seems like she is missing a screw or two. I'm not sure if she was serious about doing a DNA test on her twins, or if she was just joking. The one positive about Heather is that she has the best reactions and she didn't disappoint in that scene. Lastly, is Heather building a home or a hotel? It would make a nice mini hotel for them once the kids grow and move out. Overall, it was a nice episode that sort of reset the show for season 9. I like that we were introduced to Shannon and that Lizzie's introduction was put off to the 3rd episode. It gives us more time to know Shannon and Lizzie before throwing them into the lions den of drama. Lastly, they updated the credits! No more powerpoint 98 style credits!