On 6/4/2026 at 10:33 PM, ranger1rg said:

-- I'm OK with Bill becoming Hayley and Randy's mark -- although I could have done without hearing that Joey Armstrong -- the white savior who's all-powerful -- would never fall for her.

-- And hearing Bill tell Caroline that it was never just physical with Hayley was laughable. I mean, she doesn't come off as this brain trust who's filled with depth and empathy. That just made Bill look stupid. It'd be better to say he was swept away by her looks and youth.

ICAM.

Bill & Hayley have NOTHING going on beside sex. The whole setup was filled with holes.

On 6/4/2026 at 10:33 PM, ranger1rg said:

-- Randy and Hayley continuing to meet at Uptown is beyond ridiculous.

I've come to accept that as the show asking us to suspend our disbelief.

Other things were way more laughable. Like 'Val' and 'Sammy' meeting in front of that brick wall (...), Val going 'I just wanted to show you my new look! 🥰' and Sammy: 'BTW I wanted to give you your new ID, coincidentally the picture matches your new look!'.

'Val' considering Joey as a mark was stupid beyond words, because who would consider the town's mobster (his reputation precedes him and any sleuthing) for a scam?!

On 6/5/2026 at 11:05 PM, ReddFoxx said:

I officially cannot stand Naomi. Her blaming Derek for his own death was foul. Even if she shouldn't have gone there she still shouldn't have been blaming him and bringing up him lying about being paralyzed, especially considering that Jacob would have been a goner had Derek not been there.

ICAM.

When she walked in on Ashley and Greyson, she was smirking. And again she was not listening to Jacob. I cannot stand her.

On 6/5/2026 at 11:05 PM, ReddFoxx said:

The green screen background in the preview reminded me of when Sky and Raven would leave for a trip on EON. If your tech looks like something from 43 years ago then you should aim lower. Victor could have easily arrived in a less grand way.

I disagree. The green screen looked very good and I'm glad V&V weren't meeting at Uptown. I don't know what you guys are expecting exactly.

6 hours ago, Chris B said:

I hope the speculation in this thread is wrong about who the impaler is. I feel like it would be a bit of a let down if it's somewhere we've never met before. Especially since there are so many interesting suspects on the canvas. It would also give the new character a short shelf life I feel.

That's what I'm hoping given the bland, vanilla actor who was cast!

Can't we confine sex talks to friends, and not family members? I don't need to hear Anita advising Nicole on her sex life again. Ditto Martin with Ted.

And honest---I also don't need a lot of reminding that Anita and Vernon sweat up the sheets either. A little goes a long, long way.

I agree that making the Impaler someone new is a bit anti-climatic. I hope the Impaler is Carlton because it would make better story. Especially, after the quad dinner of Cartlon/Nicole and Joey/Vanessa where Joey called out his beliefs of plastic surgeons wanting to make a buck (leading to his mother's death). It would make Joey "right" that Carlton was out for money not patients. I can see the writers favoring Joey that way. Plus, it would end this Nicole fiasco of Carlton or Kial, the messy Carlton/Ted relationship, and add another layer of Nicole falling for someone that she never really knew. Carlton is clearly expendable.

The Naomi/Grayson bonding was an interesting twist. Is that just a red herring like the Kat/Jacob hug? Probably.

Unfortunately, it sounds fairly certain that the spoilered individual making their debut on 06/08 is more than likely The Impaler. BTG just doesn't seem to have a penchant for the element of surprise, which is a shame.

I've said this before, but I still don't understand why Joey needs to meet the Impaler.

If he's selling plasma and protecting his turf, yeah, I get it. But that's not what's going on. His crimes seem to be separate from any Red Market crime, so why does he need a meeting?

Joey claims the cops are on his case. So a meeting with the Impaler helps him? I'm lost here.

I also don't get why he needs loaded guns in his backroom for that meeting. That's his backup plan? It all plays like bad cops and robbers.

2 hours ago, P.J. said:

Can't we confine sex talks to friends, and not family members? I don't need to hear Anita advising Nicole on her sex life again. Ditto Martin with Ted.

And honest---I also don't need a lot of reminding that Anita and Vernon sweat up the sheets either. A little goes a long, long way.

Have to agree. Yes, we all like a sex-positive show with characters who are sexual.

But the family sex talk isn't edgy. At some point, it gets awkward. Anita and Vernon still do the deed? Good for them. I just don't need so many scenes about it as if they're giving us some wildly progressive soap.

1 hour ago, Vanguardian53 said:

Unfortunately, it sounds fairly certain that the spoilered individual making their debut on 06/08 is more than likely The Impaler. BTG just doesn't seem to have a penchant for the element of surprise, which is a shame.

What show does?

"the spoilered individual making their debut on 06/08 " The show never announced the actor'a debut airdate.
The actor dropped the intel on their own IG and then replied to themself that they were probably not supposed to reveal that date.

14 minutes ago, janea4old said:

"the spoilered individual making their debut on 06/08 " The show never announced the actor'a debut airdate.
The actor dropped the intel on their own IG and then replied to themself that they were probably not supposed to reveal that date.

BTW if I were the producers I would be mad at said actor. Not only did she do nothing to hide her joining the show but she also spoiled her first airdate potentially giving away a major spoiler.

I will go out on a limb and say I don't think making the Impaler a new character is a bad idea. Honestly, it's hard for me to believe it would be Carlton or Kial. They would need a lot of explaining for it to make sense. I'd rather the reveal feel believable than have a shocking twist that doesn't really fit the story.

Edited 2 minutes ago2 min by MontyB