On 6/19/2025 at 7:39 PM, Paul Raven said:

So Y&R lures a popular actor from days and has the chance to create a new character with no baggage from past storylines who could provide some freshness for a show burdened with long running stale characters.

May I introduce myself? Brooks Prentiss-Victoryou must remember-you tried to steal my father's company?

But what do they do? bring back a character that hung around for years in a series of awful stories until they finally bit the bullet and dropped him.

Now it's back to the same old same old.

Hopefully this is the move that gets Josh Griffith fired.

 

Completely agree. This is a huge blunder. At least I now have an extra hour in my day.  I have watched my last episode for a while at least.

18 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I really can’t believe this character is Cane. And JG still has a job. 

None of it makes any sense. I have no problem deSORASing Cane, or even dropping the accent, but the rest of it HAS to make sense in some way -- and it doesn't.

I know Cane was just revealed, but most of us are this upset because we know who's writing this, and that it's not going to get any better. Is it only because of the Cane/Lily connection? Then why not have Billy Flynn plays a character who sees Lily and is swept off his feet at first glance?

Instead, we have to change EVERYTHING about the character to make this work, including the fact that the Cane we knew could never become this billionaire mega-tycoon. Oh, and whose eyes are set only on Genoa City.

 

18 hours ago, Darn said:

Every time I catch a glimpse of this show it’s a scene of two people sat at a table. Does this not drive you all mad? Mariah and Tessa had this big emotional scene on the patio of CL. It’s deranged. GH manages to have sets for a dayplayers in a single episode but Y&R can’t be bothered for contract players and an important story climax. This is more than budget issues, this is a show produced by people who don’t care about what they’re transmitting.

As Antoyne said, we're ALL bothered by this. I post about it regularly -- so often that I'm guessing people are tired of hearing me complain about it.

Characters sit at a table for the entire episode, and it drives me mad, to the point I stop listening to dialogue. All they care about is getting the script on tape as quickly as possible, without any need for camera blocking. It's just awful.

13 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Then why not have Billy Flynn plays a character who sees Lily and is swept off his feet at first glance?

Instead, we have to change EVERYTHING about the character to make this work, including the fact that the Cane we knew could never become this billionaire mega-tycoon. Oh, and whose eyes are set only on Genoa City.

 

I would have preferred that greatly. And then Lily could be in a triangle with him AND Damian.

 

Or just have Lily with Damian who should have STAYED Head of Dumas still. Such an unnecessary plot twist to bring back a character who was an albatross to this show for too long while wasting another refreshing new character with potential. 

6-16

 

Well, I'll give it this much. I do like the design of the train car. It was giving. Or perhaps it is the fact that it's a new set. But no amount of Nick sitting spread eagle is going to make me like how the scenes were giving nothing but story stalling.

 

Adam and Chelesa = FF.

 

Now what I actually watched the episode for...Nate vs Holden. That was pretty good. Holden trying to turn the screws on Nate was good. Nate held his own and gave good advice. Because Holden...again...is a little too obsessed. It's just sad that he's right about Audra. That said...I love that little smirk he had at the end. 

6-16

 

Well, I'll give it this much. I do like the design of the train car. It was giving. Or perhaps it is the fact that it's a new set. But no amount of Nick sitting spread eagle is going to make me like how the scenes were giving nothing but story stalling.

 

Adam and Chelesa = FF.

 

Now what I actually watched the episode for...Nate vs Holden. That was pretty good. Holden trying to turn the screws on Nate was good. Nate held his own and gave good advice. Because Holden...again...is a little too obsessed. It's just sad that he's right about Audra. That said...I love that little smirk he had at the end. 

6 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

This is embarrassing to watch. 

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I get the feeling all we will see of the chateau is the plastic maze/garden area.

Guests seem to be sleeping on the train? We have a train bedroom set, which seems odd.

To be fair the train set is well done. If Cane/AD went to all the trouble of purchasing/furnishing this train and chateau-down to having AD logos included, why would he be returning to GC at any time to hang out at Society?

This story makes zero sense.

Putting Lily back on the Cane merry go round is pointless.

Will other women eg Sally/Phyllis now find Cane desirable also?

33 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

I get the feeling all we will see of the chateau is the plastic maze/garden area.

Guests seem to be sleeping on the train? We have a train bedroom set, which seems odd.

To be fair the train set is well done. If Cane/AD went to all the trouble of purchasing/furnishing this train and chateau-down to having AD logos included, why would he be returning to GC at any time to hang out at Society?

This story makes zero sense.

Same.  We'll likely never see the interior of the château.  We'll have weeks of "outdoor scenes on the beautiful French Riviera" consisting of scenes inside the tall maze with no view, and guests feeling claustrophobic.

I agree that the train sets are beautiful; but having your guests sleep on private sleeping cars on a train that is on your grounds, and never inviting the guests into your home?

And what about bathrooms? I mean even the best trains need to have processes to empty the toilets.

So weird.

Edited June 21Jun 21 by janea4old

it seems like Josh just gets random ideas and loosely pieces them together.

Like he watches Murder on the Orient express and thinks ...mmm....let's put the characters on a train.

Imagine what Henry Slesar would have done with a story like this?

I wonder at what point it was decided AD was Cane? Certainly not from the start. It's not like it is any sort of shocking twist. As much as i disliked Cane/DG the story would have had more resonance had Goddard returned. To have all these familiar characters looking at a stranger and exclaiming 'Cane' doesn't work.

JG has done the impossible. I miss Goddard!

 

I will say that CK was good reaming him out.

22 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

JG has done the impossible. I miss Goddard!

 I will never miss him, nor did I miss Cane.

6-20

 

I went ahead and watched. Honestly, I'm surprised how much I liked the episode. It flowed. The decor was nice. It was nice to see people. Camera angles (shoutout to Nikki/Victor in the boxcar). Dramatic music. The clothes (I think my favorites were Amanda, Damian, Nick, Nikki). And the only problem I might say is the coda...and the reveal itself of course. 

 

First...the good.

 

I'm a sucker for a female henchwoman and Amanda has been that for Dumas to the hilt. I love watching her. And MM is doing great. I like how she can gather Giggly Heffa, too. I liked the interplay with all the characters.

 

I like the idea of Damian getting a feel from everybody as well since it was looooong overdue. Damian and Victor together was a moment. Damian trying to figure out Nick and Sharon was a hoot. And we know I like Damian with Lily. 

 

I liked the reveal was done in the middle of the episode. And the director did such a great job with that. I even like the Mattie/Charlie reference because while they were aged up too soon, I did like them (Mattie/Reed fan forever here).

 

But the bad...

 

First...Dumas is Cane. DUMAS IS CANE??? Yeeeeeah nope. Not only is he de-aged, but he makes Damian redundant. And that was too apparent to me watching the scenes of Damian mingling with the Genoa City's elite. Because I kept thinking he should have done this ages ago. And how it could have worked if Damian was still head of Dumas and he wanted to flaunt what he got...perhaps with some story bombshells on the characters he was interacting with this episode. That he had been in Genoa City to get a feel (well his newest cover story) and he did not expect to be enchanted with Lily. That was all already set up before this 'Damian is just a figurehead for Dumas' plot twist that was unnecessary. Now it just seems like everything that this dynamic new character had has been snatched away. His business. His potential as a new (and refreshing different) character. And now even his potential leading lady...because I don't think we are going to get a Cane/Lily/Damian triangle. The Damian storyline was the best story Y&R had last year because it started so small and it build. And those twist were something else, fresh, and showed (in spite of the haphazard writing going on) that there was a solid direction and JG might be able to write still. Silly me. I should have focused on the word 'might.' 

 

In any case...I hated the Dumas storyline since the 'Damian is a figurehead for Dumas' twist. And this just confirms it for me. No offense to BF who I liked as Chad on DAYS. And I think the potential in chemistry with CK is there. But I'm not feeling it. And more than likely it felt like they were setting up the potential for a Lily/Cane/Giggly Heffa triangle (instead of a Cane/Lily/Damian one which would STILL sadly make sense) and I'm not here for that though I have loved over the last few months that Lily/Phyllis adversarial chemistry matches Dru/Phyllis's old magic now. 

 

Second of all...the scattered appearances of guest for this reveal. I just don't get it and now 

Spoiler

Adam will be popping up, too? I guess it was down to actor guarantees then?

So they can't even do a gradual reveal given how long it took to get to this point? So let's go with rushed. No, thanks. 

 

Synopsis for next week MIGHT make me soldier through next week, but I'm more or less done cuz I'm not here for the albatross again. 

🗑️ Wastebasket / trash emoji

Since we don't have this emoji here, I'm bringing a link for us to use

I figure its the closest emoji for garbage time.

Edited June 22Jun 22 by kalbir

10 minutes ago, kalbir said:

🗑️ Wastebasket / trash emoji

Since we don't have this emoji here, I'm bringing a link for us to use

I figure its the closest emoji for garbage time.

I was thinking the 🚽 emoji might be more appropriate for what is going on here on Y&R 🤣

@soapfan770 Hahaha, love it!

 

I DO NOT want to see Cane sniffing ANYWHERE around Phyllis.