Team Derek for sure, but my straight friend is Team Ashley, saying, "No man will force me into marriage if I'm not ready." Well, what is she waiting for? 

If I had to go off of who’s less annoying, it’s definitely Derek. At this point I’m actually confused how he put up with Ashley for years.

Who can Derek be paired with?

Shanice? Maybe test him again with Hayley.

Just now, Soaplovers said:

Shanice? Maybe test him again with Hayley.

I don't like Derek at all. Please keep Shanice safe from him.
Hayley would be fine.

Hayley. But he has chemistry with quite a few ladies not named Ashley.

-- Still on Team Derek...all the way. Ashley is beyond annoying, and nothing she says or does makes me think she loves Derek. 

-- From the moment today when Ashley saw the ring and said "It's sparkly," she made me gag. Derek can do SO much better, and I want him to walk away from that personality deficit.

-- I'm still wondering WTF Andre sees in Ashley. What are these writers doing?

-- Are we supposed to applaud Vanessa for saying "I'm unfaithful, not disloyal"? Because she's clueless, and she's both. Vanessa is still the town slut.

-- Vanessa came off as tough and smart today, but I don't think it's smart to go into business with a criminal and employ your own plan to violate multiple laws.

-- This supposed "sexual chemistry" between Joey and Vanessa is laughable. Besides, she shows what trash she is by wanting to screw him again...on a poker table.

-- Yes, the sex(y) scene with Chelsea and Madison was cool. Just wish we weren't still waiting for one of those scenes between Smitty and Martin after almost 5 months.

2 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Still on Team Derek...all the way. Ashley is beyond annoying, and nothing she says or does makes me think she loves Derek. 

-- From the moment today when Ashley saw the ring and said "It's sparkly," she made me gag. Derek can do SO much better, and I want him to walk away from that personality deficit.

-- I'm still wondering WTF Andre sees in Ashley. What are these writers doing?

-- Are we supposed to applaud Vanessa for saying "I'm unfaithful, not disloyal"? Because she's clueless, and she's both. Vanessa is still the town slut.

-- Vanessa came off as tough and smart today, but I don't think it's smart to go into business with a criminal and employ your own plan to violate multiple laws.

-- This supposed "sexual chemistry" between Joey and Vanessa is laughable. Besides, she shows what trash she is by wanting to screw him again...on a poker table.

-- Yes, the sex(y) scene with Chelsea and Madison was cool. Just wish we weren't still waiting for one of those scenes between Smitty and Martin after almost 5 months.

Vanessa being forced to money launder but still wanting to bang Joey is just cringe. And she’s really deluded herself about cheating on her husband. It’s annoying hearing her justify it.

Just now, Antoyne said:

Vanessa being forced to money launder but still wanting to bang Joey is just cringe. And she’s really deluded herself about cheating on her husband. It’s annoying hearing her justify it.

Major cringe. I just wonder if these writers think we love Vanessa for this and think of her as some fine, upstanding, supportive woman and wife.

Hearing her justify her cheating is disgusting, especially because she's doing it all over town.

12 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

WTF Andre sees in Ashley.

IKR.

12 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Vanessa is still the town slut.

12 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

-- This supposed "sexual chemistry" between Joey and Vanessa is laughable. Besides, she shows what trash she is by wanting to screw him again...on a poker table.

Vanessa is leaning more towards nasty ho than thirsty thot.

1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

-- Yes, the sex(y) scene with Chelsea and Madison was cool. Just wish we weren't still waiting for one of those scenes between Smitty and Martin after almost 5 months.

Literally just said this to myself. How did Chelsea get a love scene before Martin and Smitty?

While I appreciate Ashley hearing all about herself from Derek, they still completely suck and are horrible to watch. Jen's "crying" is rough. 

Ashely is so delusional she made it out to be all Derek's fault again. "He's presented me with an ultimatum/a test". Just like it wasn't her fault when living together didn't work out and all her buddies (Naomi, Andre, and Jacob) blew smoke up her behind about how amazing she is that no way she would be the problem. I'm so sick of this character. 

Andre and his dumb faces ain't making me like him much either. I can't tell you how Sean's acting tics get on my nerve, especially since this Andre is so lame for wanting Ashley so bad. Like I would respect it more if Andre was just being a thirsty playboy that wanted to hit it with no regard for the fact Ashley had a man, but he is for real putting a grown woman that acts like a middle school brat on a pedestal. 

I'm sorry yall. I'm venting. I can't stand this trio.

Martin's secret is heating up which I am hopeful will have a big reveal and fallout. 

I think Madison and Chelsea are an interesting pairing, but I don't know if Madison is as innocent as she is trying to come across...I might be wrong. I do prefer Madison to the other woman Chelsea was seeing. 

While I did appreciate this side of Vanessa, I don't love that she's still into Joey. If anything, I wanted her scorned and ready to play him and secure her bag. 

Today was not one of my favorite episodes, I still don't care much about Ashely/Derek/Andre and the casino stuff is still not really grabbing my attention. 

 

Edited June 17Jun 17 by GLATWT88

25 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

Like I would respect it more even Andre was just being a thirsty playboy that wanted to hit it with no regard for the fact Ashley had a man, but he is for real putting a grown woman that acts like a middle school brat on a pedestal. 

exactly

38 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

I think Madison and Chelsea are an interesting pairing, but I don't know if Madison is as innocent as she is trying to come across...I might be wrong. I do prefer Madison to the other woman Chelsea was seeing. 

That's the vibe I'm getting as well. And I love them together, but something keeps setting off my Spidey sense with Madison. So I wonder if she's related to someone who might be against Chelesa or the Duprees in some way.

On 6/12/2025 at 4:23 PM, DemetriKane said:

I have faith he will pop up soon.

And did.  

2 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

While I did appreciate this side of Vanessa, I don't love that she's still into Joey. If anything, I wanted her scorned and ready to play him and secure her bag. 

I think Vanessa is playing the long con with Joey now, in retaliation for him playing the long con with her.   I think at this point, she's faking sexual interest in Joey now, but using the sex as a means to get her revenge.  At least that's what I hope is happening.