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I can't even count the amount of magazine covers and photoshoots KKL has been in the past few months. Shame that the show is not mirroring the success she's having. It would have been so great to see both KKL and Brooke be on top. 

I'm still holding a grudge that Brad rewrote the company take-over to a nothing... and then nulled Brooke to being a romance beggar again. 

 

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Totally agree. KKL looks great! It makes the Widge groveling so bizarre.

Brooke needs to leave FC and with $B's/Liam's funding launch a rival fashion house with Hope, Rick, Katie and a secret designer. The best scenario is that Rick has been absent because he's been with very much alive C2, who is revealed on the runway as the secret designer.

It'll never happen because B&B is comfortable just focusing on FC and the Forresters Marones v. Logans. But it'd been so much more interesting if the Spencers/Logans united.

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I'll even go further... I'll make her re-think BeLief and create a new patent. Brooke needs stuff to do. Anything other than beg or be in her panties. We need her to be creative.

But sadly Bradley has a very low opinion of these characters. To him Brooke is nothing more than sex and scandal... or a pathetic doormat. Ridge is nothing more than a chauvinist pig that needs to pit women against each other to feel like A MAN and Steffy is nothing more than her father's guard-dog. I don't even want to open my mouth about Hope. She is such a fiasco in my opinion... I will not suffer if they kill her off. Bradley pooped on her character and now it's too late to fix it. Annika is great and I would hate to see her go, but slutty Hope was not her thing. The vibe was missing. 

 

 

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I saw a conversation yesterday with Liam with the 7 dwarves hat and Steffy -  I know she did not say re: Hope and Liam said - well look at Finn and you forgave him right?   
 

I know I did not hear Steffy say “well but you can’t compare that to…” 

For *uck sake someone call the bitch out!?  
 

You’re right, we shouldn’t compare your forgiveness for the dude with devil spawn seed whose daughter locked you in a cage along with crazy stepmom/mom/Grandmother who has also SHOT YOU BOTH - and multiple murder attempts but you have to exist with them / Hope’s part in a takeover which you know was FAR LESS THAN CARTER BECAUSE HOPE IS NOT AN ATTORNEY…. Goodness no, no the same thing at alllllllll.  

When they do Steffy’s absence at least let it be because they all find out what a manipulative ho she is in her own right.  

 

 

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What's even weirder to me about the next gen of Forresters Marones looking down on the Logans is that they were raised the same: 

- Rick, Bridget, Hope and RJ were all born and raised in Bel Air (or the B&B equivalent). That means they all went to the same private schools and the Marone kids, etc.

- Brooke has been wealthy for 30+ years. Katie not only got a huge slice of $B's cash in the divorce, but also has had high paying jobs for the past 15 years. Donna, well, she got the divorce settlement from Eric and then a payout from $B and remarried Eric. And all 3 have lived in highly exclusive neighborhoods, etc.

The class thing worked until Brooke got the rights to BeLief, became CEO of FC and moved into her mansion wedding present.

Brooke and Taylor's children are absolutely the same *class* - so it's disingenuous for Steffy to look down on them. I really wish one of Brooke's kids would call out Steffy/Taylor on this.

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It's shocking to see Steffy look down on anyone. She was the new generation HO for years. I mean... she was nasty and using sex to seduce married-engaged-in-relationship-men all the time. She was embracing it fully. Bradley was accenting on the fact that Taylor's daughter had become Brooke 2. I remember how disgusting it was when she was using Hope's virginity to her advantage and offering to f-ck the guys that wanted Hope. It was ABSURDLY nasty. 

Then couple of years ago Bradley decided we should forget about it and made Steffy BECOME her grandmother. IN AN INSTANT. There was no build up to it. Which aged the f-ck out the character and made her unbearable. Because it's one thing to see an actual matriarch, older woman doing these things, being a moral judge... but it's complete joke to see the ex-ho acting like this. Ex-ho that is still incredibly young and has no right acting like she is better that anyone or... a moral JUDGE.

Steffy and Hope's personalities got swapped!!! That's the irony of it. So any time these gang-style of fans come attacking Hope... for acting like a "slut"... I pinch myself - their HEROINE Steffy was doing this HARCORE. Are these people oblivious or just pretending not to remember. How can you stan a moral judge... that attacks "sluts" and also stan the same type of behavior you are attacking... years ago. How does this happen.

But I repeat myself at this point. 

I agree with everything you said 100000 percent. It's the truth. At least in my eyes. 

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There are so many missed opportunities and story beats that could be played out on B&B.

Hope was finally able to successfully move on from Liam, with Thomas, and what does Brad Bell do, he ruins it. Hope & Thomas, baggage and all, were really good together. Why Thomas is off the canvas is mind boggling, yet we have a terrible and completely useless character in Daphne still there, please make it make sense.

I think Rick is needed on the show too. Have him come back and hook up with Taylor again. That would create some really good drama and cause Ridge & Brooke's heads to explode. 

And for God's sake just recast RJ and bring Jack to the show as an adult to rip Brooke a new one for basically ignoring him all these years.

But yeah, just my opinion

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