On 3/6/2025 at 8:07 AM, All My Shadows said:

I’m gonna always be hung up on age with soaps lol Wonky ages and timelines is why so many of our favorites were written into corners and cast aside as the “elders” by the time they were 50 years old. I don’t want to see the likes of Daphnee Duplaix relegated to presiding over family brunches and talking her nutjob sister off the ledge because she’s playing a great-grandma at 50. Pat Bruder weeps.

This can be easily resolved. Daphnee could deliver lines the way Susan Lucci did as Erica when she said, "my daughter's daughter." 😂

11 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

MVJ called Julie Carruthers their “firefighter” on IG. Assume she’s the one that’s been dealing with all the production hiccups that happened in the beginning.

Julie is likely putting out fires every day, which is typical for a "startup" environment, which is exactly what BTG is.

3 hours ago, Antoyne said:

Super pleased with the last two weeks. Out of the remaining soaps I watch, I’ve only really kept up with GH since BTG began. I’ll occasionally try to get caught up on Days or Y&R and I just can’t do it. Even when GH frustrates me with Sonny worship, there’s enough other things and characters I like to keep me interested.

This was a great 2 weeks, and BTG is now by far the most enjoyable soap.

I'm still keeping up with the others, but only GH holds my attention. Y&R, BOLD, and DAYS are "I can multi-task" while these shows are on. I'm watching them only out of habit, and much of it is hate-watching.

 

 

2 hours ago, kalbir said:

Andre/Dani have the most off the charts heat generating romantic chemistry that I haven't seen in I don't know how long.

I think they've been sexy and fun, but I personally don't see the romantic chemistry.

 

8 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

This was a great 2 weeks, and BTG is now by far the most enjoyable soap.

Total agreement!

8 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I'm still keeping up with the others, but only GH holds my attention. Y&R, BOLD, and DAYS are "I can multi-task" while these shows are on. I'm watching them only out of habit, and much of it is hate-watching.

I remain very interested & even attached to GH. DAYS continues to be a problem for me, although I am only 2 days behind, which is not too bad since it's the weekend.

 

8 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

I think they've been sexy and fun, but I personally don't see the romantic chemistry.

Chem being totally subjective, still I am curious. You specify "romantic chemistry" do you mean you don't see the sexual heat others of us do see? Does it matter if they are in romantic love?

 

Woo, I'm actually up to date enough with both the show and the thread to actually post a bit!

I'm really surprised y'all haven't commented on some of the spicy language... shizz, g-spot, liberal use of bitch and ass? I have never heard a US soap try to slip in the S-word! Andre almost dropped an F the other day during the elevator birth scene, haha. I'm hoping the other soaps will loosen up!

When the bartender asked Dani if she's Mrs. Dupree or Hamilton... that was kind of a recurring theme on Y&R when Nikki and Jack got married and Jack would be embarrassed as people about town still knew her as Mrs. Newman... in other words, very vintage soap.

It's kind of weird that they all hook up at the same bar... like Chelsea went to hook up with a threesome at the same place her mom is at all the time? Would Dani be cool with that? Vanessa meets her lovers there? I take it Dani doesn't know she's cheating (she made up a cover story for her hookup in episode 1), so I wonder how Dani will take that since she feels so strongly about cheaters. I feel like they may need a second, more downlow place for the hookups you really want to keep private.

Vanessa and Doug have college age kids? Why? All these kids are too old! She just seems too young to be giving lines like her sex life is dead and she's got an empty nest.

Guess Anita and Vernon have low guarantees, but I want Tunie in her own story, pronto.

Loved Shanice listening to Nicole and Kat in the hospital... it's a pet peeve of mine when soap characters have these personal conversations in public so I liked that she was reacting, and will definitely repeat it, lol.

The lighting for Jon Lindstrom was the most artistic lighting so far... made him look very menacing. But what does he want with a heart surgeon? Intriguing.

I love how sweet Ted is and how Eva doesn't know how to react... she has really good facial expressions. Eventually she'll realize how mom has been lying to her and melt down. Can't wait to see it.

The pacing felt weird today.... abrupt cuts to commercials practically mid-sentence, but then that long speech from Dani (fell flat). The catwalking was really fun, made them feel like a real family, and Tunie was a queen. Wish they hadn't cut away from Anita and Vernon's dance so soon... they called for a more classic soap opera fade.

Just when it was feeling like there wasn't going to be a cliffhanger... haha... so that's why they dragged out the rooftep set for Kay and Chelsea.... ohhh, Leslie pulling another Sheila-ism (rooftop scene with Taylor, also a psychiatrist!)! I don't know why Jacob had to be the one to do it, but... YES! Go Bill! Dani 100% deserves it and I love to see consequences. That press conference pretending it was NBD was such BS. Loved Bill's little Victor Newman contemplative moment at the end.

17 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Woo, I'm actually up to date enough with both the show and the thread to actually post a bit!

I'm really surprised y'all haven't commented on some of the spicy language... shizz, g-spot, liberal use of bitch and ass? I have never heard a US soap try to slip in the S-word! Andre almost dropped an F the other day during the elevator birth scene, haha. I'm hoping the other soaps will loosen up!

When the bartender asked Dani if she's Mrs. Dupree or Hamilton... that was kind of a recurring theme on Y&R when Nikki and Jack got married and Jack would be embarrassed as people about town still knew her as Mrs. Newman... in other words, very vintage soap.

It's kind of weird that they all hook up at the same bar... like Chelsea went to hook up with a threesome at the same place her mom is at all the time? Would Dani be cool with that? Vanessa meets her lovers there? I take it Dani doesn't know she's cheating (she made up a cover story for her hookup in episode 1), so I wonder how Dani will take that since she feels so strongly about cheaters. I feel like they may need a second, more downlow place for the hookups you really want to keep private.

Vanessa and Doug have college age kids? Why? All these kids are too old! She just seems too young to be giving lines like her sex life is dead and she's got an empty nest.

Guess Anita and Vernon have low guarantees, but I want Tunie in her own story, pronto.

Loved Shanice listening to Nicole and Kat in the hospital... it's a pet peeve of mine when soap characters have these personal conversations in public so I liked that she was reacting, and will definitely repeat it, lol.

The lighting for Jon Lindstrom was the most artistic lighting so far... made him look very menacing. But what does he want with a heart surgeon? Intriguing.

I love how sweet Ted is and how Eva doesn't know how to react... she has really good facial expressions. Eventually she'll realize how mom has been lying to her and melt down. Can't wait to see it.

The pacing felt weird today.... abrupt cuts to commercials practically mid-sentence, but then that long speech from Dani (fell flat). The catwalking was really fun, made them feel like a real family, and Tunie was a queen. Wish they hadn't cut away from Anita and Vernon's dance so soon... they called for a more classic soap opera fade.

Just when it was feeling like there wasn't going to be a cliffhanger... haha... so that's why they dragged out the rooftep set for Kay and Chelsea.... ohhh, Leslie pulling another Sheila-ism (rooftop scene with Taylor, also a psychiatrist!)! I don't know why Jacob had to be the one to do it, but... YES! Go Bill! Dani 100% deserves it and I love to see consequences. That press conference pretending it was NBD was such BS. Loved Bill's little Victor Newman contemplative moment at the end.

What is NBD?

All Dani did was shoot up the altar flowers, big deal. Then she wanted to scare the whatsit out of them - and she did. But attempted murder? It was point blank range, if she wanted them dead, that could have happened.l

 

40 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

Woo, I'm actually up to date enough with both the show and the thread to actually post a bit!

I'm really surprised y'all haven't commented on some of the spicy language... shizz, g-spot, liberal use of bitch and ass? I have never heard a US soap try to slip in the S-word! Andre almost dropped an F the other day during the elevator birth scene, haha. I'm hoping the other soaps will loosen up!

When the bartender asked Dani if she's Mrs. Dupree or Hamilton... that was kind of a recurring theme on Y&R when Nikki and Jack got married and Jack would be embarrassed as people about town still knew her as Mrs. Newman... in other words, very vintage soap.

It's kind of weird that they all hook up at the same bar... like Chelsea went to hook up with a threesome at the same place her mom is at all the time? Would Dani be cool with that? Vanessa meets her lovers there? I take it Dani doesn't know she's cheating (she made up a cover story for her hookup in episode 1), so I wonder how Dani will take that since she feels so strongly about cheaters. I feel like they may need a second, more downlow place for the hookups you really want to keep private.

Vanessa and Doug have college age kids? Why? All these kids are too old! She just seems too young to be giving lines like her sex life is dead and she's got an empty nest.

Guess Anita and Vernon have low guarantees, but I want Tunie in her own story, pronto.

Loved Shanice listening to Nicole and Kat in the hospital... it's a pet peeve of mine when soap characters have these personal conversations in public so I liked that she was reacting, and will definitely repeat it, lol.

The lighting for Jon Lindstrom was the most artistic lighting so far... made him look very menacing. But what does he want with a heart surgeon? Intriguing.

I love how sweet Ted is and how Eva doesn't know how to react... she has really good facial expressions. Eventually she'll realize how mom has been lying to her and melt down. Can't wait to see it.

The pacing felt weird today.... abrupt cuts to commercials practically mid-sentence, but then that long speech from Dani (fell flat). The catwalking was really fun, made them feel like a real family, and Tunie was a queen. Wish they hadn't cut away from Anita and Vernon's dance so soon... they called for a more classic soap opera fade.

Just when it was feeling like there wasn't going to be a cliffhanger... haha... so that's why they dragged out the rooftep set for Kay and Chelsea.... ohhh, Leslie pulling another Sheila-ism (rooftop scene with Taylor, also a psychiatrist!)! I don't know why Jacob had to be the one to do it, but... YES! Go Bill! Dani 100% deserves it and I love to see consequences. That press conference pretending it was NBD was such BS. Loved Bill's little Victor Newman contemplative moment at the end.

I think it was mentioned before that Vanessa comes from money so maybe Joey knows about that and is using the hubby to get to that money.   That's my money.

While I liked Dani getting what was coming to her, I was really hoping that we could have gotten another Bill and Dani free day so that we could have focused more focus time on the other characters today.

I have read on other boards that people are kind of annoyed with the overexposure of Dani, and I have to agree.   Nicole's family and story is more interesting to me then Dani's, plus would like to see a bit more focus on Ruben/Anita outside of handwringing about their kids and grandkids

13 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

What is NBD?

All Dani did was shoot up the altar flowers, big deal. Then she wanted to scare the whatsit out of them - and she did. But attempted murder? It was point blank range, if she wanted them dead, that could have happened.l

 

NBD is no big deal, so we clearly don't agree. Haha. Yes i will agree attempted murder is a reach but at the presser Bill listed several other crimes... assault and illegal discharge of a weapon, that type of thing. She can plead it down to a lesser charge, but you can’t just go around shooting at weddings! Plus she assaulted them like three other times last week. Seeing consequences is refreshing!

1 hour ago, Contessa Donatella said:

Chem being totally subjective, still I am curious. You specify "romantic chemistry" do you mean you don't see the sexual heat others of us do see? Does it matter if they are in romantic love?

kalbir mentioned "off the charts heat generating romantic chemistry," so that's what I responded to. I do see sexual heat, but not romantic chem. These are two lustful hedonists going at it.

1 hour ago, BoldRestless said:

abrupt cuts to commercials practically mid-sentence

I'll be honest about that. I don't like the cuts to commercial  that BTG does. I think they're striving for their own singular look, but it doesn't work for me. Usually seems awkward and unfinished.

 

25 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

 I do see sexual heat, but not romantic chem. These are two lustful hedonists going at it.

You never know, booty call hook ups can turn into love.

11 hours ago, Antoyne said:

So you’re upset that they compared it to the last new soap to premiere? 
 

What would it need to be to be a hit if beating a show with a built in audience of over 50 years is not considered that? Did it need to beat Y&R and Bold to satisfy you?

I will never understand the need to be negative just because.

I will never understand people being unable to accept constructive criticism. I’ve filled the show with compliments. However some things haven’t worked for me. And that goes for the post launch PR campaign as well. That is not negativity. 

10 hours ago, janea4old said:

You were replying to the preliminary ratings report.
Here's the full update:
https://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2025/03/daytime-broadcast-ratings-total-viewers-households-february-24-28-2025

Another:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/beyond-the-gates-ratings-premiere-week-cbs-1236156508/

Thanks Jane. This is much better. 

4 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

NBD is no big deal, so we clearly don't agree. Haha. Yes i will agree attempted murder is a reach but at the presser Bill listed several other crimes... assault and illegal discharge of a weapon, that type of thing. She can plead it down to a lesser charge, but you can’t just go around shooting at weddings! Plus she assaulted them like three other times last week. Seeing consequences is refreshing!

Okay. I hear ya. I'm mostly aware that Dani finally showed a willingness to move on & just at that very instant Blll's actions drew her right back  into what I predict will be more tit for tat.

Watching Friday now and Shanice is s-e-r-v-i-n-g. This bitch wants to be a regular so bad and I'm here for it! 

Also, I don't care about her wig, Silkpress Sheila is and will forever BE Silkpress Sheila @Cheap21

Okay, can we just kill off Ashley and Derek in a nasty housefire and replace them with Shanice, Diego, Pamela and Jan Lindström? 

Diego certainly fills my meathead quota. 

5 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

kalbir mentioned "off the charts heat generating romantic chemistry," so that's what I responded to. I do see sexual heat, but not romantic chem. These are two lustful hedonists going at it.

Def hedonistic & they are, frankly, having fun, nothing serious about it!

6 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I think it was mentioned before that Vanessa comes from money so maybe Joey knows about that and is using the hubby to get to that money.   That's my money.

While I liked Dani getting what was coming to her, I was really hoping that we could have gotten another Bill and Dani free day so that we could have focused more focus time on the other characters today.

I have read on other boards that people are kind of annoyed with the overexposure of Dani, and I have to agree.   Nicole's family and story is more interesting to me then Dani's, plus would like to see a bit more focus on Ruben/Anita outside of handwringing about their kids and grandkids

Who is Ruben?