I am still drifting off while Ashley and Derek are on my screen. I can't lie and say I like them or how they are written. I also appreciate seeing all kinds of points of views. So... I'm not opposed to reading criticism about some aspects of the show. If it's logical, not bigoted and fake criticism, of course. I myself didn't like some of the dialogue in the last couple of episodes. But hey, I'm not worried. This is currently the best show on air. I'm looking forward to next week! 

5 hours ago, Cheap21 said:

add to that I hate their dinner on that small table in the corner. I also hated that at Nicole's house. I wish their was a dining room set bc these mansions have a small table for two in the corner in the living room took me out. Like its acceptable for Leslie and Ashley's homes, but not those two

I think it would have been fun to say that Hayley decorated it herself. Then, you could play the set design off as person who previously never had any money before this and has a tacky taste. Think the Jungle Room in Elvis' Graceland....lol

Just now, 1974mdp said:

I think it would have been fun to say that Hayley decorated it herself. Then, you could play the set design off as person who previously never had any money before this and has a tacky taste. Think the Jungle Room in Elvis' Graceland....lol

Yup... You can leave Tacky Land... but Tacky Land never leaves  you. 

15 minutes ago, 1974mdp said:

I think it would have been fun to say that Hayley decorated it herself. Then, you could play the set design off as person who previously never had any money before this and has a tacky taste. Think the Jungle Room in Elvis' Graceland....lol

Yes, I was pretty shocked when they mentioned that they'd hired a professional interior decorator to do it lol. I guess as other people have mentioned it's somewhat meant to mirror Dani's style in some ways, but it's by far the worst set so to explain it by Hayley doing it herself would've been good. 

No one is perfect of course, but I'd be perfectly fine if they kept Nicole as the grounded character of the show because God knows, everyone else seems to have their "sumthin" so to speak. The showrunners weren't lying about this show being black people doing "messy" things.  But even Nurse Nightingale appears to be on a path of tainting her good girl image by cheating on Derek with a thirsty pint-sized playboy.

Btw... This may be unpopular... But I am enjoying couple of days of pause from the show. Why... Because I've been so addicted to it... I've started to neglect personal life... around the time the show is on. I stop answering calls... I ruin dinner by eating later than my husband. So for selfish reasons... I'm happy to breathe and relax for couple of days while I miss my show. How nice it is to have something that you "miss". And... probably the best thing forward for me will be... To adjust and start watching the uploaded versions on the official cbs channel. I had forgotten how hard it is to watch something live. Hard in terms of making it possible every day. We are definitely the streaming generation.

Edited March 20Mar 20 by Maxim

16 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

^

This.

A breakdown writer only has power to take MVJ's bible/projections and break it down into episodic form. At the end of the day, they still have to answer to her. I don't think she's going to allow JG and RC to camp it up and have it be a mess like DOOL was. I understand her hiring them as they're seasoned and she's worked with Jamey before. She knows his work ethic. 

And I don't even mind them pitching ideas to her, but I think MVJ is strong enough to know her vision and know how to rein them in. At the end of the day, this is her baby. I doubt she's gonna allow anyone to destroy it. 

That aside, why am I just noticing that the show is being preempted due to basketball?!

I hope so but given so far we're stuck with the duds that are Ashley and Derek and no chem Ashley and Andre, I pray you are correct

I dont have to go to the office and can actually watch live on this Thursday only to have the show not air

I only see a troublesome outcome for Andre and Ashley. I believe it was the first or second week of the show that both Aunt Nicole and Uncle Ted pretty much advised Andre to steer clear of her. And just recently, again, Aunt Nicole reiterates it. It smells like foreshadowing to me. Once Ashley gives in to his charms and sleeps with him, only to have him turn around and not pay attention to her anymore afterwards, will ignite the scorn. She accuses him of taking advantage of her and people are going to believe it because of Andre's lothario reputation. I wouldn't be surprised if Andre disappears shortly afterwards with people thinking he's just on one of his traveling photography assignments when he's actually been kidnapped via Derek. Again, the move of Vivian Alamain? 

Edited March 20Mar 20 by Vanguardian53

1 hour ago, Vanguardian53 said:

No one is perfect of course, but I'd be perfectly fine if they kept Nicole as the grounded character of the show because God knows, everyone else seems to have their "sumthin" so to speak.

I agree with this. Nicole can have things that have happened in her past but I don't want it to be anything to taint who she has been presented as. I see her as a Viki type of heroine. 

1 hour ago, Vanguardian53 said:

The showrunners weren't lying about this show being black people doing "messy" things.  But even Nurse Nightingale appears to be on a path of tainting her good girl image by cheating on Derek with a thirsty pint-sized playboy.

I don't know what's gonna happen here but I could see Derek turning bad which could cause a breakup and prevent her from cheating on him.

 

3 hours ago, Maxim said:

I am still drifting off while Ashley and Derek are on my screen. I can't lie and say I like them or how they are written.

I am with you here. I know that no soap gets everything right from the beginning so I'm hoping this is the first storyline they adjust now that they've gotten feedback.

 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, NothinButAttitude said:

That aside, why am I just noticing that the show is being preempted due to basketball?!

You have had a busy couple of weeks so missed the announcements about it here because this thread moves very fast and you don't want the other soaps that it effects.  

 

17 hours ago, Khan said:

And if she does want Ron, Jamey and the rest of her staff to "camp it up," that's not to say it won't be GOOD camp, know what I mean?

Emphasis on GOOD.  Which of course is subjective.

 

I have truth in MVJ myself. Now RC...  And I'm really curious to see Jamey since I only have what others have said...which has been good and bad. And as people know about my relationship with humor and camp vs slapsticky and silly...I don't need to go over that again except to say I am an organic humor (think Hayley being ignored by the whole country club) kinda of guy.

 

15 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Ashley was more animated and interesting when interacting with her mom.  Of course, we already knew her mom had some personality since she and Silk Press Sheila have friendship chemistry.

Speaking of which, Eva and Silk Press Sheila each have pulled a stunt that the other isn't aware of yet.  Eva having her mama kicked out while Silk Press Sheila did a bit of bumper cars with the assistants vehicle.   I have a feeling this tale/scheme will climax in May.. I feel it in my bones.

I know that a wait and see attitude is in order for Ron C and Jamey... but breakdown writers make sure that the head writer and their vision is laid out effectively.  MVJ/Guza might have a good idea, but if the person implementing the idea is subpar then it doesn't matter how the good idea was.... and Ron C and Jamey don't exactly have a good track record (from what I hear, some viewers haven't been thrilled with Jamey's contributions at Days although the quality hasn't been good there for awhile).

I know people were mentioning in the discussion about Ashley that she has not interacted with her mother so hopefully they enjoyed it finally happened as much as next week when Naomi and Hayley finally interacted because both should have occurred by now, but better late than never. I personally enjoyed it and Ashley opened up so much more because of it.

 

I caught that, too!!! The crack in their scheme team is definitely showing. lol. Yeah, I feel like that...and Martin's secret are going to climax at May Sweeps. I love with Silk Press Sheila that they are really giving it the classic build, with almost-outs. Like soaps used to be. 

 

Yeah, it is for that reason that I pointed out the Lynn Martin credit. The wonders she did on Tuesday's episode were the bee's knees to what she did on Friday's episode. And who was in charge of Friday's episode? RC. Like you, I don't know Jamey's work well enough but I'm optimistic. Look at Lynn Martin. Tuesday and Friday were night and day.

 

15 hours ago, kalbir said:

I see what you did there

 

Andre comforted and supported Dani. I'm sensing a love slowly growing in two weary hearts.

Why are Andre/Ashley being shipped? I'm not seeing it.

Hehe.

 

Yeah, I loved the Andre/Nicole scenes yesterday where he hinted that Dani is not okay and mentioned personal experience of his own. A hint of depth from Andre? Yes, please. They are doing right by Andre and Dani and I continue to love that dynamic...whatever it will grow into.

 

Outside of the longtime friends angle, *shrugs* I don't mind it. But I feel the actors are getting comfortable in their roles. 

14 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

On one of the podcasts I listen to called Nicole The Black Marlena LOL

Someone made the comment in a tweet (with pictures) and I haven't been unable to undersee that. And apt. I love Marlena Evans. 

14 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

On one of the podcasts I listen to called Nicole The Black Marlena LOL

Someone made the comment in a tweet (with pictures) and I haven't been unable to undersee that. And apt. I love Marlena Evans. 

10 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I was a huge fan of Ambitions. Still sad there was no season 2 after an excellent cliffhanger.

Another reason for me to be optimistic on Jamey cuz we know I trust your judgement greatly.  

As longtime soap viewers, I love that we have a soap archetype shorthand that can be expressed easily to other longtime soap viewers who are new to BTG.

• Dani has the fire of Erica Kane -- if Erica had refused to give up her career,
  combined with Katherine Chancellor's angst/divorce/jealousy/drinking
• Hayley is a young Jill Foster
• Leslie/Dana is old-school Sheila Carter (not the current watered-down Sheila)
• Gossipy Nurse Sharice Johnson is Amy Vining
• Dr. Nicole Dupree Richardson is Dr. Marlena Evans

I could chat with anyone who knows soaps, and say those things, and they'd get it immediately.

Cady McClain said on IG that her character Pamela is the Opal Gardner to Dani's Erica Kane.
Except that we viewers saw that Pamela is all posh which is different from Opal.
So what Cady meant wasn't that Pamela is like Opal, but rather that they have that type of friendship. We haven't yet seen much of that yet, but what Cady said is an example of explaining via soap archetypes.

Edited March 20Mar 20 by janea4old

Work has been crazy these last few days...Hence why I wasn't on yesterday and today.  I will read over the board tonight and get caught up and start posting again tomorrow!!

I really liked the two new stories this week of Naomi suing her father's firm and the mess Jacob is going to be pulled in with his (probably dirty) partner with Joey. Both have potential.

A little disappointed there wasn't a cliffhanger on Weds knowing it wouldn't be back on till Monday. Was hoping for something big like the gun at the wedding.