1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

The only thing consistent about GH right now is how inconsistent and subpar it is. Sorry, but that is the truth; you can tell where Elizabeth Korte & Chris Van Etten are sitting there going "do this right now!" and changing things up as time moves along, and you can tell where Korte's favouritism is coming out to play (i.e., Carly), et al. I would dare say yes, GH has the strongest company of actors, but that is what you get when your [overstuffed] cast is filled with daytime veterans, whereas BTG has a more new-to-daytime cast of actors.

I would say it's down to more than just having a lot of daytime veterans - some of the daytime veterans are among the worst actors on the show, while some of the new hires of the last few years are real bright spots. 

We're still getting some moments, but I think the Carly favoritism has been much worse in some years than now - admittedly that is because Carly is about as boxed in as we have seen the character, so it could change, but it's not on the level of even a few years ago where everyone kept dragging Nina through the mud for daring to report Carly to the cops. 

How you describe GH is how I'd say it has been for a long time, including in Mulcahey's run (which I don't put all on him as he was clearly being sabotaged, but few things bore me more with this show than "We're all mad at Sonny...but psst...it's not actually his fault!"), but I think there are still some surprisingly good moments at times. Part of that is down to them taking what Mulcahey gave them and running with it (albeit in a very clunky, one-note manner), like the Drew darkness, and part is finally smoothing over some stories that had rougher starts (like the whole Brook Lynn/Dante/Gio story).

I think it's just disappointing to watch the show because you know it probably won't ever be allowed to improve, that any small improvements are cut off and any improvements are probably network mandates (like firing Easton and Howarth), which isn't how things should be. And you can see the spite from Frank and co in how some of those mandates are executed (the returns of Lucky and Lulu).

As the quality writers who kept the show watchable on a day-to-day basis are long gone, there's even less reason to ever hope for improvement, which can make things too demoralizing to even want to sit through.

BtG is the great new hope, even though some of the writers (outside of Michele Val Jean) are the same group who did severe damage to GH, so GH is always going to be harder to watch. I can't really compare them as shows because both are in the same boat - they will be lucky to survive year to year, given the state of TV and of the genre. I hope they make it. Hell, I hope any of us make it year to year, let alone the soaps. But I also know that the GH which makes it is never going to be the show you or many others mourn.

15 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

In light of the comments on this page alone I think you should really consider what you post about taking a joke.

😂 

5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I would say it's down to more than just having a lot of daytime veterans - some of the daytime veterans are among the worst actors on the show, while some of the new hires of the last few years are real bright spots.

Which veterans would you say are "among the worst"? I'm looking at the vets list, and I don't have a problem with any of the, honestly.

7 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

We're still getting some moments, but I think the Carly favoritism has been much worse in some years than now - admittedly that is because Carly is about as boxed in as we have seen the character, so it could change, but it's not on the level of even a few years ago where everyone kept dragging Nina through the mud for daring to report Carly to the cops. 

I've always maintained: Carly becoming "untouchable" by anyone in Port Charles has become overkill, and those that do touch her become the "bad boy" (i.e., Ava & Nina). The last time she felt touchable was right before the "writer" became head writer. Garin Wolf made her touchable.

15 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I think it's just disappointing to watch the show because you know it probably won't ever be allowed to improve, that any small improvements are cut off and any improvements are probably network mandates (like firing Easton and Howarth), which isn't how things should be. And you can see the spite from Frank and co in how some of those mandates are executed (the returns of Lucky and Lulu).

Realistically, ABC should just ditch Varni & Valentini, and then put someone else back into the helm, and allow some actual changes to be made. Until then, I'm sure Disney ABC is just waiting for GH to drain their bank accounts so they can shut it down.

2 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Which veterans would you say are "among the worst"? I'm looking at the vets list, and I don't have a problem with any of the, honestly.

Benard is the top of the list for me. Burton has improved but he still does little for me compared to others on the show. And there is just a big slew of "OK...I guess," like Wally Kurth.

3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

I've always maintained: Carly becoming "untouchable" by anyone in Port Charles has become overkill, and those that do touch her become the "bad boy" (i.e., Ava & Nina). The last time she felt touchable was right before the "writer" became head writer. Garin Wolf made her touchable.

Even with Garin Wolf it was a break from established patterns. I think for most of Laura's tenure she's been written this way, for various reasons. 

Knowing nothing from nothing, do we predict that Kevin will raise Ace in the other room for the next few years?  Or do you think we'll get an explanation for his absence?

Because I certainly hope that they are not looking to absolve Sonny of his sins, by practicing the common decency of helping his friend Laura through loss.  And I'm not talking about the use of limousines, which is how Sonny has 'helped' women grieve in the past.

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33 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

In light of the comments on this page alone I think you should really consider what you post about taking a joke.

I realize you mean well but from my pov the only action I can see to take is to put one foot in front of the other. Possibly there could be a better idea but if so I have not hit upon it. 

9 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Benard is the top of the list for me. Burton has improved but he still does little for me compared to others on the show. And there is just a big slew of "OK...I guess," like Wally Kurth.

Oh, I wasn't even considering Bernard, a veteran, in my list. I was thinking more people like Genie Francis, Finola Hughes, etc. those people.

10 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Even with Garin Wolf it was a break from established patterns. I think for most of Laura's tenure she's been written this way, for various reasons. 

It was, and Wolf was under Phelps' production, so. And it worked for me.

4 hours ago, carolineg said:

lol.  The Laura/Sonny friendship talk nearly made me want to drive to the studio and force him to retire.

"It's an exciting time to be your friend Sonny."  What!?  Why?  Laura Spencer isn't as gullible as I am and shouldn't believe Sonny's words.

I wanted to puke.

Jon Lindstrom is doing both BTG and GH

Sonny killed Jagger for less but just let Valentin go. And Brennan had Valentin dead to rights but wanted to have a whole conversation before Anna even showed up 🙄.

10 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Sonny killed Jagger for less but just let Valentin go. And Brennan had Valentin dead to rights but wanted to have a whole conversation before Anna even showed up 🙄.

Sonny should pay for Jagger

Maybe that could be his eventual exit

Sonny does not deserve happiness

3 hours ago, j swift said:

Knowing nothing from nothing, do we predict that Kevin will raise Ace in the other room for the next few years?  Or do you think we'll get an explanation for his absence?

Because I certainly hope that they are not looking to absolve Sonny of his sins, by practicing the common decency of helping his friend Laura through loss.  And I'm not talking about the use of limousines, which is how Sonny has 'helped' women grieve in the past.

Ace hasn’t had a scene with his aunt Lulu yet. I want Lucky and Lulu to spend time with the nephew/adopted brother.

3 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

I realize you mean well but from my pov the only action I can see to take is to put one foot in front of the other. Possibly there could be a better idea but if so I have not hit upon it. 

😑 Please Donna stop.  Hit upon whatever you want privately but you can't even respond to my fairly nice PM.  You aren't changing.  You aren't doing anything on this board except making it toxic.

You literally told me your entire post towards me was cut off and Idk I have been posting all day fine.  You should probably talk to the MODs about that. 

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Oye at this show....

 

Brooklyn is mad at Lois because Grandma knew? 😂 Ridiculous!!

 

Anna should've just killed all three at the pier.

 

Anna telling Valentin he had to pay because he had already committed too many crimes.

 

Yet, Sonny hasn't paid for Jagger's murder, and I've lost count of how many he's committed.

 

Speaking of he's having a nice cup of tea with Mayor Laura.

 

General Hospital is a joke.

 

No wonder they are dead last in demos.

8 hours ago, Aragorn said:

Ace hasn’t had a scene with his aunt Lulu yet. I want Lucky and Lulu to spend time with the nephew/adopted brother.

Gosh, how long has it been since we've even laid eyes on Baby Ace? I know at a minimum, months.