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This story is sadly still realistic and will be sadly for a long time if not ever. I am sur Natalia will have a conversion if GH keeps the character longer term

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10 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I'm seeing people on Twitter who are demanding writers be fired due to this story. I hope those people were as adamant over past stories along these lines or stories that were much worse in spreading anti-gay views, including a storyline where a gay man sexually harassed a rape victim.

I do think people need to go, but less because of some statement of homophobia (maybe I'm wrong, but I imagine at some point Natalia will come to support her daughter) than the story making no damn sense. 

You can see people on twiX saying almost anything. And it's clear that many of those people are not watching the show daily. The fanbase wars & the agendas people have truly warp discussion. 

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The problem with the story, in my opinion, isn't Natalia's anti-gay sentiments. That is relevant to talk about even today, I agree. My issue is that the whistleblower is the villain, not the person who did or said the thing, in the eyes of some people in Port Charles.

Ava, like Nina before her, is bad because she reveals Natalia's bigotry, and now people want to take her daughter away from her? I get it; Ava isn't a nice person, and she has done other things that might warrant her losing custody of her child, but no one is going to tell me what she did in this situation was any worse than anything Sonny has done in 30 years. Alexis could have killed someone anytime she was drunk had she been behind the wheel of a car, but she never lost her kids. Sonny recently beat up his daughter's boyfriend and paid no price for it. But he's the better parent for Avery?

I swear, these soaps need some reality in their stories. Be a soap, fine. But tell it like it makes some sense. I'm tired of being played for a fool by the writers of EVERY soap currently on air.

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3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

that were much worse in spreading anti-gay views, including a storyline where a gay man sexually harassed a rape victim.

 

I am drawing a blank. When did this happen and what characters? It’s disgusting!

6 minutes ago, Errol said:

swear, these soaps need some reality in their stories. Be a soap, fine. But tell it like it makes some sense. I'm tired of being played for a fool by the writers of EVERY soap currently on air.

They used to be able to do this! Even something as grounded as BJ’s heart had Bobbie’s affair with Damian being exposed by Tony as she was being wheeled in to the ER. 

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15 hours ago, janea4old said:

At the end of the June thread, posters were wondering how Gio is related to the Cerullo clan.  Replying here in the July thread.  

June 17, 2024 
Conversation during Willow's birthday party at the Metro Court.

Carly:  You know, I, um, hear Gio say aunt, uncle, cousin. No grandpa, no mom or dad.  Whose kid is he?

Brook Lynn: That's the whole thing.  See, Gio's father died before he was born, and his mother was a violinist with the New York Philharmonic but she died when he was ten.

Carly and Josslyn: Oh. Wow so sad

Brook Lynn:  Well, fortunately for Gio, he was raised by the vast and loving Cerullo and Falconeri clans, so we all feel like he's one of us.

Thanks for the tidbit. However, I must point out that when Giovanni was first announced to have joined the cast by Deadline, they reported his last name as Cerullo. Now, in the credits, he was given a different name (Palmieri), so I wonder if the writers decided to change it at the last minute but forgot to let the show's publicist know. Either way, I hope they have a plan for this character. Thus far, I'm pretty bored.

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30 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I am drawing a blank. When did this happen and what characters? It’s disgusting!

They used to be able to do this! Even something as grounded as BJ’s heart had Bobbie’s affair with Damian being exposed by Tony as she was being wheeled in to the ER. 

It's been a while, but IIRC Brad did this with Michael early on.

Soaps don't care about reality or day-to-day or buildup now because they think viewers are fools and it's easier for them to just stall and stall between the latest shock value moment.

4 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

About Trina, tired of being patient. Give her some story & do it as close to yesterday as is possible. That is all. 

Feels like they are just waiting until Taby leaves so they can say it was her own choice. She doesn't even seem to spend time with her own mother now. 

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8 hours ago, Errol said:

The problem with the story, in my opinion, isn't Natalia's anti-gay sentiments. That is relevant to talk about even today, I agree. My issue is that the whistleblower is the villain, not the person who did or said the thing, in the eyes of some people in Port Charles.

Ava, like Nina before her, is bad because she reveals Natalia's bigotry, and now people want to take her daughter away from her? I get it; Ava isn't a nice person, and she has done other things that might warrant her losing custody of her child, but no one is going to tell me what she did in this situation was any worse than anything Sonny has done in 30 years. Alexis could have killed someone anytime she was drunk had she been behind the wheel of a car, but she never lost her kids. Sonny recently beat up his daughter's boyfriend and paid no price for it. But he's the better parent for Avery?

I swear, these soaps need some reality in their stories. Be a soap, fine. But tell it like it makes some sense. I'm tired of being played for a fool by the writers of EVERY soap currently on air.

I dont see anyone but possibly Sonny who's horny possibly giving Natalia a pass. Everyone else showed outrage at her comments

At the same time What Ava & Dewitt did was wrong. They outed Blaze without her consent.

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9 hours ago, Errol said:

Ava, like Nina before her, is bad because she reveals Natalia's bigotry, and now people want to take her daughter away from her? I get it; Ava isn't a nice person, and she has done other things that might warrant her losing custody of her child, but no one is going to tell me what she did in this situation was any worse than anything Sonny has done in 30 years. Alexis could have killed someone anytime she was drunk had she been behind the wheel of a car, but she never lost her kids. Sonny recently beat up his daughter's boyfriend and paid no price for it. But he's the better parent for Avery?

It's because she isn't Carly / Sonny directly, and let's be real. The writer(s) are going to prop those two no matter what, and it's disgusting to see. If the roles were reversed and Carly leaked the tape, no one would be threatening to take Donna from her. Not even Sonny. It's disgusting, and it's a tired form of story-telling. Sonny has been active in the mob scene for years (even recently), and Ava has been out of it (aside from living with Sonny) and Carly ran the organization, and yet Ava is still not what's best for Avery... because she leaked a conversation to a tabloid and lives in a hotel?! Gimme a fücking break.

9 hours ago, Errol said:

I swear, these soaps need some reality in their stories. Be a soap, fine. But tell it like it makes some sense. I'm tired of being played for a fool by the writers of EVERY soap currently on air.

This is why a lot of us are enjoying international soaps, Errol. They don't play their audiences as dumb like American soaps.

8 hours ago, Errol said:

Thanks for the tidbit. However, I must point out that when Giovanni was first announced to have joined the cast by Deadline, they reported his last name as Cerullo. Now, in the credits, he was given a different name (Palmieri), so I wonder if the writers decided to change it at the last minute but forgot to let the show's publicist know. Either way, I hope they have a plan for this character. Thus far, I'm pretty bored.

Giovanni Mazza is a decent actor. Nothing special. And Gio (character) is giving a Cameron-Spencer hybrid replacement. And that's not what any kind of character should be giving in 2024.

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I hope #GH wins best for best writing in 2025 just so Patrick Mulcahey can get an emmy

 Episodes Monday-Wednesday defintley felt like major influence was Patrick Mulcahey. Friday's preview even seems like PM's pen. If this is his final week, PM went out strong. TY Patrick.

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7 hours ago, Liberty City said:

Giovanni Mazza is a decent actor. Nothing special. And Gio (character) is giving a Cameron-Spencer hybrid replacement. And that's not what any kind of character should be giving in 2024.

I like Gio. But as I said before, what is 'there' of the character? He's a nice boy who plays pretty music. Unless you're gonna go into a hot and heavy summer story with Trina rediscovering her passion with this innocent young man (good luck with the social media outcry watching a Black woman seduce a sweet white kid), there's not many layers yet. He seems to have little flaw. I wouldn't dump him or anything, but there needs to be a hook found. Maybe perfect musician Gio has a drug or self-harm habit related to his obsessive skills, or his imposter syndrome, etc.

As for Ava, if this show wanted to get really real they'd finally reveal what I've suspected since before Avery was born: That she is Morgan's, and that Carly has known for her entire life. She kept it from everyone because she knew Morgan was not ready to raise a child and wanted him kept away from Ava Jerome's influence. Then I'd kill the kid, and then the truth would come out.

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16 hours ago, Errol said:

I swear, these soaps need some reality in their stories. Be a soap, fine. But tell it like it makes some sense. I'm tired of being played for a fool by the writers of EVERY soap currently on air.

Amen and hallelujah to that!!

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The Sonny/Carly can do no wrong writing is exactly why I stopped watching the show for almost a decade I believe. I never understood how they were able to take Avery away from Ava in the first place all those years ago and now it makes even less sense.

This show will never be what it could be because it doesn’t matter who the writers are, except for that very brief period when RC really sidelined Sonny, the objective will always be to prop Sonny at the expense of other stronger characters and quite frankly actors.

3 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

The Sonny/Carly can do no wrong writing is exactly why I stopped watching the show for almost a decade I believe. I never understood how they were able to take Avery away from Ava in the first place all those years ago and now it makes even less sense.

This show will never be what it could be because it doesn’t matter who the writers are, except for that very brief period when RC really sidelined Sonny, the objective will always be to prop Sonny at the expense of other stronger characters and quite frankly actors.

Patrick Mulcahey very obviously intended something very different. Now they are probably walking that back. 

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17 hours ago, Liberty City said:

This is why a lot of us are enjoying international soaps, Errol. They don't play their audiences as dumb like American soaps.

Well, it depends on the soap...

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