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Beyond the Gates has to at least outperform reruns of The Price is Right, otherwise it will be a cause for concern.

When a network can air reruns of a show that gets the same or better ratings than an original show that costs you 30-50 million a year to produce, they have a problem. That's why The Talk got canned. It wasn't pulling in enough eyeballs and it had no repeat or additional financial value for CBS/Paramount.

No one was watching clips on the show's YouTube channel, and they sure as hell weren't watching the show on either CBS.com/CBS App or Paramount+. Unlike The View, there was NOTHING worth rewatching from The Talk. Their topics were terrible and uninteresting and didn't generate any buzz, much less go viral. Again, The View with its political slant had people wanting to know what they had to say about just about anything, whether it be Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, Taylor Swift, the Super Bowl, Kendrick Lamar and many others. At the end of the day, whether you like the hosts or not, The View gets people talking, both good and bad.

The Talk had nothing to talk about. At least nothing memorable. 

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I'd also argue that there was too much instability and unfamiliarity in the hosting chairs.  

Whenever you tune into "The View," you might not know anything about the newer co-hosts (Sunny, Alyssa, etc.), but you know who Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar are; and you know, too, that there's a very good chance you'll see them on the show that day.  "The Talk" might've had that in the beginning, with Sara Gilbert, Sharon Osbourne, Julie Chen, Holly Robinson Peete, Leah Remini, Aisha Tyler, etc.  Once those ladies peaced out one-by-one, however, and the show basically became a revolving door of little-knowns and also-rans, it became even more of a chore to watch everyday!

When Sheryl Underwood and Jerry O'Connell are the only two people on your show whom your audience recognizes even a little bit, it's time to reassess what value, if any, your show lends to your network's lineup.

Oh, and I'm sticking to my second guess: Beyonce's set to make a cameo on BTG.  You heard it here first, sports fans!

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If repeats of The Price Is Right can outperform The Talk, I have faith there is a window of opportunity for Beyond the Gates. May it take a bit of time? Sure. But I have faith it'll happen at some point.

Honestly speaking, The Talk was relatively watchable up until the endless lineup changes. I always said the two things The Talk had over The View were: production and a consistent lineup.

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full clips, recorded late in 2024, but released Feb. 11.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHubqeW07TE

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Index provided in the YT description:

00:00 Sean Dominic (Nate, Y&R)

00:15 Abigail Klein and Stephen Nichols (Stephanie and Steve, DAYS)

00:40 Zuleyka Silver (Audra, Y&R)

01:08 Colton Little (Andrew, DAYS)

01:29 Courtney Hope (Sally, Y&R)

02:00 Brytni Sarpy (Elena, Y&R)

02:14 Brandon Beemer and Martha Madison (Shawn and Belle, DAYS)

02:41 Elizabeth Hendrickson (Chloe, Y&R)

03:08 Galen Gering (Rafe, DAYS)

03:38 Jason Thompson (Billy, Y&R)

04:20 Loren Lott (Ana, Y&R)

05:32 Sharon Case (Sharon, Y&R)

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Sheryl Underwood was a big Y&R fan and she always showed love to the current/former Y&R cast members that appeared on The Talk. She got all excited whenever Eric Braeden or Shemar Moore would show up.

Y&R squandered Loren Lott talent. I was happy that she moved on to better things.

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