2023 Writers + Actors Strike Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

From what I have read, Musk has kicked the misinformation machine into overdrive on that platform.
Admittedly, I have been taking a break from U.S. news (and even CBS Mornings, which I watched on occasion) in anticipation of election year when it will be unavoidable. 

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[cassadine1991]

2% is unreasonable?!? 

[DramatistDreamer]

AMPTP believes anything and everything any entity outside of their own organization is unreasonable. They’ll soon be crying poverty yet again. They probably spend that amount on car service for their junior executives alone.

[Vee]

Wow:

 

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[janea4old]

https://deadline.com/2023/10/hollywood-stars-offer-150-million-dollars-over-three-years-in-higher-dues-to-help-end-actors-strike-stalemate-1235578089/

Deadline revealed Tuesday that a quorum of stars including George Clooney, Emma Stone, Ben Affleck, Tyler Perry and Scarlett Johansson met with SAG leaders including Fran Drescher and Duncan Crabtree-Ireland.

Deadline spoke with Clooney, who confirmed the plan proposed by the stars.

‘A lot of the top earners want to be part of the solution,” the two-time Oscar winner told Deadline. 

Deadline revealed Tuesday that a quorum of stars including George Clooney, Emma Stone, Ben Affleck, Tyler Perry and Scarlett Johansson met with SAG leaders including Fran Drescher and Duncan Crabtree-Ireland.

Deadline spoke with Clooney, who confirmed the plan proposed by the stars.

‘A lot of the top earners want to be part of the solution,” the two-time Oscar winner told Deadline. “

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Well that's interesting.  
Clooney is ficore from WGA-West since 2007
https://www.wga.org/members/membership-information/wgaw-financial-core-list

and Tyler Perry is ficore from WGA-East (date not listed)
https://www.wgaeast.org/enforcement/wgae-financial-core-list/

WGA says "ficore is forever" on their websites, so once you're out, you don't get back in, so they couldn't return to to the writers guild even if they wanted to.  I think those were old situations that cannot be fixed now.


But this new article says Clooney and Perry are willing to pay extra dues to SAG-AFTRA, so they seem to be indicating a pro-union stance.

They are willing to pay higher dues to SAG-AFTRA, to help the lesser paid actors get residuals or something.

Edited October 20, 2023 by janea4old

[titan1978]

Those top line stars will do anything to avoid picketing! I’m kind of joking but it is funny that after a week solid of pressure for them to hit the lines they cough up millions to help their union members beyond the immediate crisis. And who knows if they even have the support of their other top line peers to make this happen.

Still doesn’t deal with the studios not wishing to share in their windfalls and also the AI topics.

[DramatistDreamer]

According to President of SAG-AFTRA Fran Drescher, the proposal being offered by Clooney et al., wouldn’t be legal.

Man, am I glad that nobody tried to to this during the WGA strike, as I fear it would weaken writers’ prospects in the long term!

[titan1978]

What the WGA accomplished seems even more incredible next to how the more famous actors are behaving. Lots more public questioning of their Union and the negotiating strategy, making public statements through the media and online, and a seeming willingness by many to compromise on behalf of the studios. The Halloween costume thing is silly. However, I see the point the Union was trying to make. And the public doesn’t seem to be shaming the actors as much as they did on behalf of the writers.

I know people are tired, and there is a lot going on in the world. But the studios wouldn’t have any money without the talent in front and behind the scenes. They deserve their share. And again- they have these public shareholder meetings where they tout more and more profits. And they just keep raising the price on us too to keep the profits going up.

Also- the egos amongst actors must be harder to deal with than the writers were. I don’t envy anyone on the SAG-AFTRA negotiating team.

[DRW50]

Some actors, including former soaper Michelle Hurd, talk about 100 days.

Actors Strike Hits Day 100: SAG-AFTRA No Plans To “Acquiesce” To Studios – Deadline

And talks are back on starting Tuesday.

Happy 100! SAG-AFTRA And StudiosTo Return To Talks On Tuesday – Deadline

[DramatistDreamer]

It looks as though Fran Drescher would not be opposed to part of what Clooney has proposed, which is to lift the cap off the dues, for the highest earners so that they can contribute more but it looks like that would require a rule change, which likely means it would need to be voted on first. She did say explicitly that, at the moment, this wouldn’t help achieve the union’s current goals. 

[titan1978]

A huge part of the problem currently from the actors is the WGA was so organized compared to SAG-AFTRA striking by themselves. By all accounts they communicated better, they had stronger strike captains who kept people motivated and rotating to new spots, and they waged the public relations battle against the studios like a masterclass.

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Greedy AF