10 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Finally caught up. The TR story is the best one right now. Too bad it was rushed. I fast forwarded the possession nonsense. Will and Sonny looked so good on Friday's show.

Leo and his one liners are grating on my nerves. I hate Leo.

I hope they throw the book at TR. For killing the cute drug dealing twink Frank.

1 minute ago, Khan said:

New campaign: "It's DAYS -- Just Go With It."

NEW PLAN TO SAVE DAYS!!  Resurrect all Marlena's children.  

Is it BEN?  The often mentioned possible 1986 baby?  CHAD?  LEO?   Does Belle have a secret (cooler) twin?

7 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

A rushed one week murder mystery. Who killed Leo? It was non devil Johnny. 

Craig and Leo are the new Ciara and serial killer. Apparently all they do is f u c k all day in bed.

Craig's too old and tired to bang Leo. 

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

NEW PLAN TO SAVE DAYS!!  Resurrect all Marlena's children.  

Is it BEN?  The often mentioned possible 1986 baby?  CHAD?  LEO?   Does Belle have a secret (cooler) twin?

It's T.R.

3 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

 

I hope they throw the book at TR. For killing the cute drug dealing twink Frank.

Yeah he was cute.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

NEW PLAN TO SAVE DAYS!!  Resurrect all Marlena's children.  

 

😂😂😂

3 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Craig's too old and tired to bang Leo. 

Apparently so...Craig mentioned not being a spring chicken when Leo wanted to f u c k some more.

6 minutes ago, Khan said:

It's T.R.

Checks out lol!

Could you even imagine bringing back DJ?  Deidre Hall probably forgot she had a pairing before Roman lol.  I lowkey don't want to put this in the universe, but I thought the whole Alex North nonsense was leading to a child between them that was given up and bitter and resentful. 

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31 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Yeah he was cute.

😂😂😂

 

I wanted Will & Sonny to take the troubled twink under their wing.

5 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

I wanted Will & Sonny to take the troubled twink under their wing.

Ha!

There's a story I'd love for them but I know Ron would ruin it and do it for laughs.

Just to go in adifferent direction, I was thinking about the 80's supercouples

Roman/John/Marlena

Bo/Hope

Shane/Kimberley

Steve/Kayla

Each had their time in the spotlight.

When Roman and Marlena married, Bo and Hope were ready to take over and so on.

So throughout the 80's Days had at least one supercouple in the midst of angst with others at various stages of their relationship.

And with other couples in the background-Pete/Melissa, Neil/Liz etc

All of the supercouples featured a Brady and had action/adventure elements.

By 88 with Steve and Kayla wed, there was no similar template couple ready to step up.

Mike/April, Justin/Adrienne,Jennifer/Emilio etc didn't have the same larger than life appeal.

So that era was over, either by design or poor planning. It got to the point that Tanner/Molly were being pushed.

Who could have been the next supercouple?

Days was fresh out of Bradys. 

12 hours ago, dc11786 said:

I was a lapsed viewer who had come back in the fall of 2008 when they started the baby switch. Watching day to day, the show didn’t feel dark at the time in 2011 because it had been (to varying degrees of success) tried to move away from the camp it had come to be known for in the past decade. In hindsight, I can see now 2011 was a dark year. 
 

Chloe’s stint as a prostitute had come after a bout of post partum depression mixed with an ongoing custody battle with (an offscreen) Phillip regarding custody of Parker. Chloe, as I recall, stumbled into prostitution. She went to bed with Quinn and he paid her. When she realized the money she could make, Chloe made the choice to enter. During the Parker paternity secret, Nathan Horton alluded to the  fact that he thought Chloe could possibly be addicted to sex. The affair with Daniel during her relationship with Lucas was purely physical in the beginning. I didn’t mind the prostitution story because the trajectory Chloe had been on, but I don’t think it was as well plotted as it could have. Add in the addition of teenage Kinsey thinking prostitution would be a fun way to make some cash and a serial killer offing prostitutes and it only got bleaker.

Similarly, Carly’s drug addiction seemed to be a continuation of the road that Carly had been on for the past year and a half. Her marriage to Lawrence had been at the very least emotionally abusive and, if they hadn’t already, Bo and Carly were ending their relationship because Bo had rekindled his feelings for Hope when he helped her escape from prison. Also, it was clear from early on in Carly’s return that her better match was Daniel, her child’s father, who was now interested in Carly’s friend Jennifer. Carly’s personal life wasn’t in a good place. If I remember correctly, the breaking point for Carly was dealing with the death of a young male patient and then dealing with the revelation that Vivian was in contact with her son, Nicholas, who proceeded to hang up with her when she tried to talk to him. My issue with the addiction stuff was it didn’t really go anywhere. Abigail learned her secret early on, but Carly was able to keep her quiet. There seemed to be some setup for Carly’s negligence to lead to serious injury with Brady after he had been conked on the head, but that seemed to be hinted at but never followed through.

The problem with Marlene McPhearson and Darrell Ray Thomas was they dumped everything. Core cast and story, but also significant shift in sets and the elimination of supporting characters. Java Cafe and Cheatin’ Heart were both dumped in favor of Common Grounds. The hospital seemed to be used less. Lots of scene were in the square. Also, Higley and Whitsell had a group of recurring characters (Tad, Kinsey, Fr. Matt, Maxine, Justin, Adrienne) who were barely used or not used at all. It was too much of a shift. The week of the Horton Town Square was the week of the returns as well as the week after “All My Children” had concluded. Viewers who tuned in were treated to returning faces but basically no stories. The only major thread that was carried over was Daniel and Jennifer’s relationship. Everything else as I recall was just starting which made things very slow. 
 

Quinn came back for a single cycle and left in February 2012 to be with Taylor. I don’t remember if it was ever made clear what the purpose of his return was. I know he operated the spa in the square which was suppose to act as a retail space for the cosmetic wars, but I don’t remember if they chemistry tested him with anyone. 
 

Part of the problem is “Days” was able survive the cast purge of 2008-2009 because the stories were relatively stable. Major characters were being written out, but, for the most part, their stories had already been minimized so the impact wasn’t as big. The people who were really front burner during the purge were Marlena and John and there were enough other stories going that the loss didn’t feel as glaring in terms of story canvas as it would have in 2011 when basically every single front burner story was concluded without some sort of natural progression that shifted characters in directions based on the immediate aftermath of the previous stories. 

By comparison, when Tomlin and Whitsell came back as headwriters, the new stories were more built out of the old ones. Nicole’s pregnancy with her relationship with Daniel while Rafe claimed to be the father led to Jennifer, still grieving Jack, to worry about Nicole taking advantage of Daniel leading to Nicole’s fall in the Horton Town Center, which led to Nicole going to work at the church with Eric. Gabi’s scheme involving Andrew her fake stalker led to Chad going to Melanie and Gabi sleeping with Will before connecting with Nick while they both worked at Brady pub. There was still some sloppiness (Kristen’s initial reintroduction was haphazard) but the stories gelled by December. 

McPherson and Thomas completely axed the hospital, which I always found to be such a weird move. We occasionally saw some weird hospital room set -- I know Bo had some health crisis while Hope was in "Alamainia" (smh) with John -- but we didn't see that main nurses' station area for a whole year. Melanie, who was a nurse, started doing Botox at the spa, and Kayla was working behind the bar at the Pub. Maxine didn't appear for the entire year. We got the main hospital set back, like, the first week of Tomlin and Whitesell's return, as well as Melanie greeting Maxine. 

(Also, hi!)

McPherson & Thomas's stint really should have worked. I don't know what level of interference there was, but there were no stories being told. It was just a lot of setup. Everyone was getting new, random job offers, many of which went nowhere. It felt to me like a lot of well intentioned and poorly executed fan service. And I wound up liking a lot of what McPherson did with the AMC reboot a year later!

9 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Just to go in adifferent direction, I was thinking about the 80's supercouples

Roman/John/Marlena

Bo/Hope

Shane/Kimberley

Steve/Kayla

Each had their time in the spotlight.

When Roman and Marlena married, Bo and Hope were ready to take over and so on.

So throughout the 80's Days had at least one supercouple in the midst of angst with others at various stages of their relationship.

And with other couples in the background-Pete/Melissa, Neil/Liz etc

All of the supercouples featured a Brady and had action/adventure elements.

By 88 with Steve and Kayla wed, there was no similar template couple ready to step up.

Mike/April, Justin/Adrienne,Jennifer/Emilio etc didn't have the same larger than life appeal.

So that era was over, either by design or poor planning. It got to the point that Tanner/Molly were being pushed.

Who could have been the next supercouple?

Days was fresh out of Bradys. 

Justin/Adrienne seemed to get the big supercouple push, though I've always regarded them as a secondary supercouple, and then Jack/Jennifer were there, so that era kind of stretched itself into 1990-91. But you're right -- by the time Tanner and Molly were being pushed as the Next Big Thing (or a Thing at all!), things had really nosedived. This was also an era where, for the first time in over a decade, Days was telling love stories with characters who had a lot of onscreen history, often in a second or third "big love" -- you had Marlena returning and being torn between Roman and John, Bo moving on after Hope's death with Carly, and even Kayla and Shane turning to one another. Totally different sort of storytelling than they'd done in the 80s.

10 hours ago, carolineg said:

NEW PLAN TO SAVE DAYS!!  Resurrect all Marlena's children.  

Is it BEN?  The often mentioned possible 1986 baby?  CHAD?  LEO?   Does Belle have a secret (cooler) twin?

I read that last line for a second as "Does Belle have a secret (colder) twin?" and I thought, if anyone were colder than Belle, they'd be a chunk of ice.

6 minutes ago, koos said:

I read that last line for a second as "Does Belle have a secret (colder) twin?" and I thought, if anyone were colder than Belle, they'd be a chunk of ice.

Word.

On 3/19/2022 at 2:13 AM, te. said:

Maybe we should have a watch party for the greatest made-for-television movie of all time instead of regular DAYS programming?

 

 

I have this wonderful gem on a VHS tape somewhere in storage from when Lifetime reaired it. It's right up there right next to Meredith Baxter playing Betty Broderick in the upper echelon of made-for-TV movies. lol 

Would you say Days had a rough transition into 1990-1991? 

I would say it was the latest divorce (perhaps she should have switched to email earlier and spent more on makeup and less on fan mail?):

In court papers obtained by RadarOnline.com, Deidre claims that her monthly salary from her corporation, Panache was more $28k a month. Emphasis is on the word WAS. The income and expense court document states, "The primary source of Ms. Hall's income in 2008 was from her work on the television program, "Days of Our Lives." As this Court knows, in mid-December of last year, Ms. Hall was terminated from that employment....due to her termination from "Days of Our Lives" she is going to have to utilize the assets she has accumulated and the income generated by those assets to maintain her and the children's lifestyle."

The court papers also reveal that Deidre has spent over $7,000 on make-up, $6,000 on fan mail and photos.