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The only reason I tuned in to Guiding Light in the mid-2000s is because all the soap mags were raving about Tom Pelphrey and how he's a godsend to the show. I did find his acting compelling but what was the actual story line to him being front and center at the time? Was he Reva's long lost son? I guess his movie career didn't go anywhere once he left the show which is a shame cuz he was good

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Did Cassie's death on Y&R pay off in 2005? I thought it was fantastic acting on everyone's part, but they sacrificed the actress who was there from an early age. I haven't seen her back on the show as Mariah but I guess she's in a lot of storylines now?

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Killing off Cassie was a waste 

They knew it was a waste of storyline because they had to retcon a long lost twin

The only thing that storyline added was pushing Nick and Phyllis together,  and even the writers could come up with a better way to advance that plot point 

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I have to say I disagree with you on this.

Killing Colleen was a HUGE waste. Besides the immediate plot point of giving her heart to Victor, this had literally no follow-up, no impact and the story itself sucked.

On the other hand, killing off Cassie is what allowed them to break up Nick and Sharon. We take Phick as a viable option as granted now but Sharon/Nick were the supercouple then and there was no way the audience would have been ready to accept anything else other than them as the endgame.
The slow deterioration of their relationship after her death in parallel to his chemistry with MS (with whom Nick only started to only interact because of Daniel's involvement in Cassie's death) is what allowed them to open up a whole range of stories for both characters .
For younger characters they had already been in a deadend of repetitive stories when stuck to each other. This really opened a lot of doors; a lot of those doors ended up sucking but that's another problem.
Those two were important figures of the next generation at Y&R and they were already tired. Revitalizing them as individuals has had a huge story-driving impact.

I am not saying *I* would have killed her off. I still think killing any legacy child is a short-sighted move that soaps often regret and try to undo (and indeed the idiotic Mariah retcon shows why it is stupid no matter how good the story) but Cassie's death is one of the few child deaths that had an impact that lasted beyond the immediate aftermath.

That doesn't mean not having taken the risk and going in a different direction wouldn't have been better. Cassie's death is such a case imho: it worked but it would have been not to have done it. I think Cassie would still have an even bigger impact had she stayed alive and that they could have figured another organic way to split Shick. But it did "pay off" and we will never know what the payoff for the alternative scenario would have been.

Colleen's death on the other hand was and is and forever will be a wasteful idiotic travesty. 

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And then there is Delia's death. I can't say I was particularly attached to that child the way I was with Cassie and Colleen, but that was a real waste of time. There was short-term shock value and yes, Adam and Billy hated each other after it, but every character has beef with Adam anyway, so it wasn't necessary. Chloe even works with Adam now and doesn't seem particularly bothered. And they had to replace Delia with "Bella" who is a completely pointless character who is growing up entirely offscreen and no one even knows she's Billy's daughter. If Delia were around, she could be a teen right now playing the mean girl against Faith, and there might be some story there with the tension between Billy and Chloe, and connections through Victoria's children and Billy's relationship to Lily (via Moses as part of the teen scene).

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AMC - creating a front burner young love story b/w 2 totally new characters Cliff and Nina. Until then AMC had pretty much relied on the Tyler and Martin families to create story.

Although it was short term gain as the writers got a few good years from the pairing then there was nothing left .Once Taylor Miller left, Cliff didn't seem viable.

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It wasn't just those things back then.  Luke/Laura were broken up, Ned/Lois were on and off, and Sonny/Brenda had a brutal breakup all at the same time.  It was kind of dreary.  Still a great soap, but it was kinda depressing lol.  

I will always think bring Wayne back was a mistake.  It worked for the years that he was there, but lead to Roman being a total side character.  He was the first of the Brady's on the show, had a great romance with Marlena, and is now played by Josh Taylor lol.

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