On 4/10/2021 at 9:41 PM, j swift said:

 

 

Also, (with even more respect of your opinions) I reject all arguments that the reason soaps don't produce well rounded LGBTQIA representation is because they are afraid of online criticism by gay fans.  Soaps have won GLAAD awards and gained popular media exposure for doing the least amount of representation possible.  The same argument would never hold water when applied to other types of minority representation.  Black and Latinx fans would not accept poor examples of their culture played out on screen and neither should gay soap watchers.  We should always strive for more respectful portrayals of our experiences and we should never accept the idea producers don't demand gay characters because they are afraid of backlash from the LGBTQIA community.  Gay fandom has never received the respect we deserve and our loyalty has never been rewarded with proper consideration of what we want in terms of plotlines.  60 years later, networks still only care about 18-34 women who buy laundry detergent, but that doesn't mean that the gay audience should just take the scraps that we're given because we still get some entertainment value out of the occasional shirtless hunk or bitch fight.

I personally am getting to the point that a show shouldn't write for gay characters if there isn't a gay on the writing staff. And then I remember "Felix" on GH and his first few scenes and how much I found the writing repulsive. That said, I also know that any gay character will offend a gay audience member. The scenes between Paul and Will a few pages back made me cringe as I have never EVER heard someone ask a guy if they are gay in that manner. I'm not sure about others but when I try to figure that out I check out their social media accounts. Either that, or I have someone ask for me.

 

I feel that the best way is to create two, make them siblings. And have both of them on either end of the spectrum. One being flamboyant and the other being subtle. Most importantly, of course, is to explain WHY these personality traits exist.

1 hour ago, allmc2008 said:

I feel that the best way is to create two, make them siblings. And have both of them on either end of the spectrum. One being flamboyant and the other being subtle. Most importantly, of course, is to explain WHY these personality traits exist.

No way would a soap have gay siblings. Two gay characters to deal with who can't be involved with each other? Dealing with those issues you mentioned?Not happening.

 

5 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

No way would a soap have gay siblings. Two gay characters to deal with who can't be involved with each other? Dealing with those issues you mentioned?Not happening.

 

It would actually be pretty interesting to do that. It would be something new and realistic and would add a very different dynamic to that typical gay storyline that we've all seen on soaps.

 

Bill Bell loved to do two siblings in love with the same person. That could be done here as well.

Edited April 16, 20214 yr by AbcNbc247

I have two cousins who are brothers and both are gay. Each has their own boyfriend. I don't see them in a triangle since they have different taste in men.

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

I have two cousins who are brothers and both are gay. Each has their own boyfriend. I don't see them in a triangle since they have different taste in men.

And think of ALL the times soaps had siblings chasing the same person.

My idea was to help show that no two gay men are the same tbh. 

5 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

I have two cousins who are brothers and both are gay. Each has their own boyfriend. I don't see them in a triangle since they have different taste in men.

Me and my brother have the same exact same set of two parents but we were raised separately (long story).

We are both gay.

But while his husband is a great guy, I do not find him attractive in the slightest.

I've been watching the novela Querelo todo off and on. On Monday one of the male characters

Is proposing to his gf. Five males some cowboys are watching. One of them says who is the guy trying to fool? He doesn't like females. He is gay. I'm going to prove it. The other guys laugh and say ah you want him. Since then that story hasn't been seen. 

The gay siblings will certainly be something new, and exciting to watch. I would love to write that storyline myself, it’s something very close to my heart tbh. Since I live it everyday, so I feel I can add new dimensions and bring a realism to it. Something I feel has been missing from the gay portrayals, and soaps in general! You can use it as a umbrella and usher in many more gay characters. So it’s not so isolated too!
 

OLTL and AMC  are the only soaps I would trust to do it right! I don’t think they’ll play it too safe, it brings too many interesting dynamics to play it safe imo. 

On 4/11/2021 at 2:33 PM, dc11786 said:

 

Wendy Riche spoke about dealing with the network when she wanted to tell an AIDS story before the Labine had decided on Stone and Robin. She had gone to the network about having A.J. Quartermaine contract the disease from a situation that would leave people asking who slept with who. Of course, it's also rumored that Marland intended for Hank Eliot, not his lover Charles, to die of the disease. In both scenarios, there is definitely a concern about perpetuating a stereotype that gay men are promiscuous. 

 

Here's the transcript from the Riche interview on WeLoveSoaps:

 

 

I'm watching a bit of 1995. There is a scene that I watched, before seeing this more recently, where A.J. shows up at the gatehouse and crashes a girls' night with Brenda and Lois. I believe the purpose of the scene is for Ned to walk in and be upset that A.J. is meddling, but there are moments where I feel like A.J. enjoyed just dishing the dirt with the ladies and that the show was testing the waters at pre- "Will and Grace" dynamic between A.J. and the ladies. It's entirely possible I completely misread the scene as well. 

 

 

UGH. Wendy Riche's mind! She is needed back in daytime. Shame TPTB at Disney-ABC did not allow for her to tell the story with AJ, because, it could have been EXCELLENT!!!!

GH is finally doing a story with Cassandra James' Terry Randolph starting June 24th. Something to do with her work at the hospital. 

39 minutes ago, John said:

GH is finally doing a story with Cassandra James' Terry Randolph starting June 24th. Something to do with her work at the hospital. 

 

I'm excited to see where it could go... I wonder if it's to replace Britt Westbourne as Chief of Staff... with Cyrus' financial control of General Hospital done, I wonder if the Quartermaines or another backer is funding the hospital, and allowing changes to happen.

 

 

14 hours ago, janea4old said:

 

 

 

More proof Josh Griffith is sh*t in his roles, as well as Anthony Morina.

 

HOWEVER, I also believe just because it was Pride Month does not mean LGBTQ+ should automatically appear.
Though, it would be nice for soaps to acknowledge Pride Month in some way, but that should not be an immediate month to put your characters in that position, and then let them slide elsewhere.

3 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I also believe just because it was Pride Month does not mean LGBTQ+ should automatically appear.
Though, it would be nice for soaps to acknowledge Pride Month in some way, but that should not be an immediate month to put your characters in that position, and then let them slide elsewhere

 

Oh yes I totally agree.

 

I think that tweet was simply pointing out that not only does Y&R blatantly ignore the Mariah/Tessa relationship all year long, they didn't even show them during June.

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3 minutes ago, janea4old said:

 

Oh yes I totally agree.

 

I think that tweet was simply pointing out that not only does Y&R blatantly ignore the Mariah/Tessa relationship all year long, they didn't even show them during June.

 

Well, since Griffith and Morina took the reigns, they're barely seen any way, from what I've read.