7 minutes ago, Dylan said:

How does GH do on hulu?

I don’t know if Hulu or ABC has ever released GH’s streaming numbers. I do know that when Hulu announced they were going to remove Coronation Street years ago, people had a fit and they reversed their decision. I’d bet GH does just fine on Hulu. 

There isn’t anything to replace them so I can see all of them lasting until 2030 which sucks because they are so horrible. 

 

Edited February 28, 20214 yr by Fevuh

14 hours ago, mikelyons said:

 

I don’t know if Hulu or ABC has ever released GH’s streaming numbers. I do know that when Hulu announced they were going to remove Coronation Street years ago, people had a fit and they reversed their decision. I’d bet GH does just fine on Hulu. 

 

I imagine it does fine. AMC and OLTL were #1/#2 when they dropped each week/day so I imagine soaps do a lot better on streaming then gets talked about. DAYS was/is #1 for NBC online. Not sure where it falls on Peacock. Again, I still imagine it does fine. 

 

Not sure on Y&R/B&B streaming. They haven't really had an outlet except All Access which is becoming Paramount+ so we will see I guess.

Edited February 28, 20214 yr by KMan101

Since 2013 and the show only getting one year pick ups, March 8 is the latest date that DAYS has announced renewals. Ken Corday has said the current contract has them filming until April 26, so if we don't have an announcement for a renewal this week, we could very well see the end of DAYS sooner than later. At the very least, it could mean some sort of change is being negotiated.

Honestly, I see all four still on the air in 2025, if only because the networks STILL won't have anything to replace them.  If even one show goes, it'll be because that network has given up the ghost and ceded the airtime back to the affiliates.

I was just thinking, im kinda surprised none of the streaming services (Besides the ones that already carry the 4 daytime shows) have ever said "hey people binge shows maybe we could develop a daily drama for Netflix etc

On 2/27/2021 at 6:10 PM, BoldRestless said:

 

I agree. It all seems to be on auto pilot now. In the 90s and 2000s we saw the shows fighting hard for ratings with flashy stories like the clones. There were live episodes, musical episodes, Port Charles turning into a supernatural show with telenovela-style arcs. Even into the 2010s we still saw a lot of stunt casting of popular vets from other networks. Now it's like they're not even trying anymore. I think there is this acceptance that they will get renewed if they maintain X rating and keep to Y budget. There will not be writers and producers fighting for some money to do a big "Out of the Ashes" type story to boost ratings. They probably have a formula where they figure they will lose a certain percentage of viewers each year and adjust the budget downward accordingly.  You don't even see stories anymore about actors threatening to walk because their guarantee or salary is being cut. They all know where it's heading. Now it's about creative budgeting, figuring out how to recycle sets, add more clip shows, adding more dark weeks. What remains to be seen is the effect of COVID which hurt the ratings while increasing costs. They might be able to absorb it by cutting in other ways. 

 

ITA with the "auto pilot" remark.  The remaining 4 had a bump around 2012-2014 with the loss of four long-time shows, but now it's a slow decline yet still steady enough to sustain for some years ahead. None of the four remaining shows will try anything innovative and groundbreaking at this point. It's just wash, rinse, repeat. Keep it simple; keep it budget-friendly. Keep it alive; keep everyone employed. 

 

Did ANY of us think in 2011 that both Days of Our Lives and General Hospital would be around in 2021?  We even thought Y&R and B&B would be gone by 2020. Meanwhile, you had the AMC & OLTL Hulu reboots fizzle out just a couple years before Hulu, Netflix, streaming went BOOM.  It's hard to predict in this day and age how television will evolve, where people are cutting cable cords, picking 'n choosing which streaming services they want, etc. 

 

Edited March 1, 20214 yr by Gray Bunny

The shrinking of sets that I am reading about in show threads feels a bit unsettling to me because it takes me back to the last years if some cancelled soaps.

When soap sets become unsightly and the scripts are bad, it just doesn't seem to portend a bright future.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

When soap sets become unsightly

I just love that word "unsightly". LOL.  One of my friends and I in college and I would have a bit - when something was bad, she would say "It's just GHASTLY!"  and I would reply "OHHH it's UNSIGHTLAYYYYYY!"

16 minutes ago, Fevuh said:

I just love that word "unsightly". LOL.  One of my friends and I in college and I would have a bit - when something was bad, she would say "It's just GHASTLY!"  and I would reply "OHHH it's UNSIGHTLAYYYYYY!"

 

Someone in Y&R thread mentioned the word to describe their current sets, which inspired this post, lol. Since I almost never watch the show (or any daytime dramas) anymore, I felt weird about posting this thought in there.

Also, the word "Ghastly", always tickles me, lol.

10 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Someone in Y&R thread mentioned the word to describe their current sets, which inspired this post, lol. Since I almost never watch the show (or any daytime dramas) anymore, I felt weird about posting this thought in there.

Also, the word "Ghastly", always tickles me, lol.

We did that bit all the time.  Our other friends would always say, you two need new material.  

28 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Someone in Y&R thread mentioned the word to describe their current sets, which inspired this post, lol. Since I almost never watch the show (or any daytime dramas) anymore, I felt weird about posting this thought in there.

Also, the word "Ghastly", always tickles me, lol.

 

Sadly, I *wish* DAYS had the quality (and quantity) of sets Y&R does. At least Y&R still has space to work with. DAYS gives claustrophobia. 

I can see Days getting cancelled because they have the lowest ratings.  I stopped watching because I found it too boring without Sami, Bo and Hope.  

On 3/5/2021 at 5:56 AM, Gray Bunny said:

Sadly, I *wish* DAYS had the quality (and quantity) of sets Y&R does. At least Y&R still has space to work with. DAYS gives claustrophobia. 

Days sets must be minute if Y&R appears to have space!

Covid has obviously affected budget (cost of regular cleaning etc) and production (number of extras, sets etc) so Y&R eg is looking threadbare compared to only a few years ago.

So long as they produce some kind of profit they will continue for now.

If to do so, the budget keeps getting cut it will surely reach the point that they cannot be feasible any more.

Also, the shows need to stop writing like its 1985. Get rid of the big corporations( with no offices and employees) mega wealthy citizens (who live in one room homes or tiny hotel'suites') and fancy restaurants (with no patrons) and pivot to a more realistic narrative.

10 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

 

Also, the shows need to stop writing like its 1985. Get rid of the big corporations( with no offices and employees) mega wealthy citizens (who live in one room homes or tiny hotel'suites') and fancy restaurants (with no patrons) and pivot to a more realistic narrative.

 

Agreed and I was just thinking of that the other day. Yes, GL's switch from the hustle bustle of Springfield (with skyscrapers and various haves-and-have-not neighborhoods) to the vast open fields of Peapack were a bit harsh, but surely these 4 remaining shows (well, minus LA-based B&B) could slowly pare down the show's mega corporations and mansions, as their budgets no longer adequately represent those lifestyles.