On 7/21/2020 at 4:15 PM, Manny said:

Thanks to @kalbir for pointing out this thread to me. I couldn't find it. Thanks to everyone who shared their ratings. 

As I mentioned in another thread, I have some ratings which I have collected all across the internet over the many years. Unfortunately I do not have nice paper clippings like some of you, because all the ratings I find, I input in an excel file, so I wouldn't be able to tell you for most of them what my sources are, but I hope that's not the problem.

 

So I have some partial ratings from 1992, so I can start from there:
 

Week of August 10 1992 (On AW, Lucas died; Shane starts to walk without the crutches on DAYS and Karen invites Jagger for dinner on GH). 

1. Y&R 8,7
2. AMC 6,6
3. ATWT 5,8
4. B&B 5,7
5. GL 5,3
6. GH 5,2
7. OLTL 5,1
8. DAYS 5,0
9. AW 3,7
10. SB 3,1
11. LOV 2,4

Week of August 17 1992 (Sawyer is arrested for Frank's murder on SB, A.J. and Nikki make love on GH and Clay told a devastated Dinah Lee that he cannot marry her on LOV)

1. Y/R 8,6
2. AMC 6,8
3. ATWT 5,8
4. B&B 5,7
5. GL 5,3
6. GH 5,2
7. DAYS 5,1
8. OLTL 5,0
9. AW 3,8
10. SB 3,3
11. LOV 2,5

 

Week of August 24 1992 (Ava accepts Leo's proposal on LOV, Jack and Jenn enjoy time in New York on DAYS and Lionel and Gina make love for the first time on SB).

1. Y&R 8,4
2. AMC 7,0
3. ATWT 5,9
4. B&B 5,7
5. GL 5,6
6. GH/OLTL 5,2
7. DAYS 4,9
8. AW 3,7
9. SB 3,1
10. LOV 2,6

 

Week of August 31 1992 (Bill and Holly search a burial tomb in an attempt to find a statue on GH, andAlly seems to have been possessed by evils spirits on LOV)

1. Y&R 7,9
2. AMC 6,4
3. ATWT 5,4
4. GL 5,3
5. B&B 5,2
6. OLTL 5,0
7. GH 4,9
8. DAYS 4,6
9. AW 3,3
10. SB 2,6
11. LOV 2,5

Week of September 21 1992 (Jack and Nikki discuss having a child on Y&R, Kevin tricked LeeAnn to get Duke on OLTL, while on AW Paulina and Jake reconciled)

1. Y&R 8,1
2. AMC 6,6
3. ATWT/B&B 5,8
4. GL 5,4
5. GH 5,0
6. OLTL 4,8
7. DAYS 4,5
8. AW 3,2
9. SB 2,6
10. LOV 2,5

This would have been the Billy Douglas climax for OLTL? I wasn’t expecting a massive ratings increase for a story climax but almost seems the ratings hurt from it. 
 

Also seems the pit story didn’t do much for DAYS

Just now, soapfave06 said:

On 7/21/2020 at 4:15 PM, Manny said:

Thanks to @kalbir for pointing out this thread to me. I couldn't find it. Thanks to everyone who shared their ratings. 

As I mentioned in another thread, I have some ratings which I have collected all across the internet over the many years. Unfortunately I do not have nice paper clippings like some of you, because all the ratings I find, I input in an excel file, so I wouldn't be able to tell you for most of them what my sources are, but I hope that's not the problem.

 

So I have some partial ratings from 1992, so I can start from there:
 

Week of August 10 1992 (On AW, Lucas died; Shane starts to walk without the crutches on DAYS and Karen invites Jagger for dinner on GH). 

1. Y&R 8,7
2. AMC 6,6
3. ATWT 5,8
4. B&B 5,7
5. GL 5,3
6. GH 5,2
7. OLTL 5,1
8. DAYS 5,0
9. AW 3,7
10. SB 3,1
11. LOV 2,4

Week of August 17 1992 (Sawyer is arrested for Frank's murder on SB, A.J. and Nikki make love on GH and Clay told a devastated Dinah Lee that he cannot marry her on LOV)

1. Y/R 8,6
2. AMC 6,8
3. ATWT 5,8
4. B&B 5,7
5. GL 5,3
6. GH 5,2
7. DAYS 5,1
8. OLTL 5,0
9. AW 3,8
10. SB 3,3
11. LOV 2,5

 

Week of August 24 1992 (Ava accepts Leo's proposal on LOV, Jack and Jenn enjoy time in New York on DAYS and Lionel and Gina make love for the first time on SB).

1. Y&R 8,4
2. AMC 7,0
3. ATWT 5,9
4. B&B 5,7
5. GL 5,6
6. GH/OLTL 5,2
7. DAYS 4,9
8. AW 3,7
9. SB 3,1
10. LOV 2,6

 

Week of August 31 1992 (Bill and Holly search a burial tomb in an attempt to find a statue on GH, andAlly seems to have been possessed by evils spirits on LOV)

1. Y&R 7,9
2. AMC 6,4
3. ATWT 5,4
4. GL 5,3
5. B&B 5,2
6. OLTL 5,0
7. GH 4,9
8. DAYS 4,6
9. AW 3,3
10. SB 2,6
11. LOV 2,5

Week of September 21 1992 (Jack and Nikki discuss having a child on Y&R, Kevin tricked LeeAnn to get Duke on OLTL, while on AW Paulina and Jake reconciled)

1. Y&R 8,1
2. AMC 6,6
3. ATWT/B&B 5,8
4. GL 5,4
5. GH 5,0
6. OLTL 4,8
7. DAYS 4,5
8. AW 3,2
9. SB 2,6
10. LOV 2,5

 

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2 minutes ago, soapfave06 said:

 

This would have been the Billy Douglas climax for OLTL? I wasn’t expecting a massive ratings increase for a story climax but almost seems the ratings hurt from its tale.

 

OLTL definitely seems to be the soap that could, they didn’t score well in the HHs but we were surprisingly high in the demos and JFP seemed to do more harm than good. 
 

Also seems the pit story didn’t do much for DAYS

Edited May 10, 20232 yr by soapfave06

55 minutes ago, soapfave06 said:

 

This would have been the Billy Douglas climax for OLTL? I wasn’t expecting a massive ratings increase for a story climax but almost seems the ratings hurt from its tale.

 

OLTL definitely seems to be the soap that could, they didn’t score well in the HHs but we were surprisingly high in the demos and JFP seemed to do more harm than good. 
 

Also seems the pit story didn’t do much for DAYS

This era wasn't JFP. She didn't start until 1997. Because OLTL was doing so well, particularly in those demos, as you said, she got the gig at GH.

On 5/28/2020 at 7:40 AM, Soapsuds said:

Yup, ATWT had the #2 spot for most of 1991 until January 1992 when AMC took second. ATWT was #3 for most of 1992.

 

From January 1994

 

ATWT was strong from 1990 to 1992 but AMC finished higher than ATWT in final season rankings:

 

1990–1991 Season

• 1. The Young and the Restless 8.1
• 2. General Hospital 6.7
• 3. All My Children 6.3
• 4. As the World Turns 5.9
• 5. The Bold and the Beautiful 5.7
• 6. One Life to Live 5.3
• 7. Days of Our Lives 5.2
• 7. Guiding Light 5.2
• 9. Another World 3.8
• 10. Santa Barbara 3.2
• 11. Loving 3.0
• 12. Generations 2.4 (Final Season; ended January 25, 1991)

1991–1992 Season

• 1. The Young and the Restless 8.2
• 2. All My Children 6.8
• 3. As the World Turns 5.8
• 3. General Hospital 5.8
• 5. Guiding Light 5.6
• 6. The Bold and the Beautiful 5.5
• 7. One Life to Live 5.4
• 7. Days of Our Lives 5.4
• 9. Another World 4.1
• 10. Santa Barbara 3.1
• 11. Loving 2.8

1992–1993 Season

• 1. The Young and the Restless 8.4
• 2. All My Children 7.3
• 3. The Bold and the Beautiful 5.9
• 4. General Hospital 5.8
• 5. As the World Turns 5.7
• 6. One Life to Live 5.5
• 7. Guiding Light 5.4
• 8. Days of Our Lives 4.9
• 9. Another World 4.2
• 10. Santa Barbara 3.1 (Final Season; ended January 15, 1993)
• 11. Loving 2.8

13 hours ago, Errol said:

This era wasn't JFP. She didn't start until 1997. Because OLTL was doing so well, particularly in those demos, as you said, she got the gig at GH.

You’re right! I was looking at too many years and confusing myself lol 

It looked like the only time OLTL did well in the HH under JFP was the Nora/Bo/Lindsay climax and none of the other increases lasted, whereas other soaps would still hit big strides for plot climaxes in the late 90s. 

4 hours ago, soapfave06 said:

You’re right! I was looking at too many years and confusing myself lol 

It looked like the only time OLTL did well in the HH under JFP was the Nora/Bo/Lindsay climax and none of the other increases lasted, whereas other soaps would still hit big strides for plot climaxes in the late 90s. 

The best ratings I believe JFP’s OLTL got was the Georgie Phillips storyline. Those demos, IIRC, were so good the show was topping GH consistently. Again, that’s why she got the GH gig.

The next time OLTL started doing that again was ironically when it got canceled under Ron, which is why despite canceling the show itself the network extended the contracts of Ron and Frank which later led to them both getting GH. 

Just now, Errol said:

The best ratings I believe JFP’s OLTL got was the Georgie Phillips storyline. Those demos, IIRC, were so good the show was topping GH consistently.

That was also the last time I, as a lifelong OLTL viewer, felt I was invested in the show.

8 minutes ago, Khan said:

That was also the last time I, as a lifelong OLTL viewer, felt I was invested in the show.

Woof.

17 hours ago, Vee said:

Woof.

Yes, @Vee, I remember the discussion we had about the Georgie Phillips murder plot, lol.

What can I say?  The story had so many problems, but dammit if it didn't hold my interest.

It held mine too! It got me back to the show. I would simply argue early Carlivati was far better, lol.

1 hour ago, Vee said:

It held mine too! It got me back to the show. I would simply argue early Carlivati was far better, lol.

Woof.

Bumping this thread, which will likely become pretty active in a couple weeks from now. I was also thinking about how fall 1991 should be significant. That was when not one, but four, ultimately long-running syndicated weekday talk shows joined a field that already included Phil, Sally, Oprah, Geraldo, Regis & Kathie Lee and Joan Rivers. The newcomers were Montel, Maury, Jenny and Jerry.

1994-1995 PREEEMPTIONS DATA...

 

I was asked about the 1994-1995 preemptions data, so to get the ball rolling on when soaps were preempted for the OJ Simpson trial, I will be posting the full & partial preemptions from 1994-1995 for all soaps here. When I have more time I can check on what the "rated" preemption reasons were, but these years will not have any "unrated" (sustaining) program titles available (but, of course, any of those would be for special reports, so when that happens, I will just list those as "Unrated Special Report").

 

Notes: Blank lines are full preemptions; Lines with data are breakouts/partial preemptions. PBO = Portion is a breakout (these portions of the episode are not counted towards the weekly/yearly averages).

 

All My Children Preemptions 1994-1995:

1/17/94 ABC News: California Earthquake (1-4PM)
4/22/94 1-138 (38 minutes); 138-2PM PBO (75 percent affs)
4/26/94 1-133 (33 minutes); 133-2PM PBO (74 percent affs)
5/23/94 1-149 (49 minutes)
6/17/94 (52 minutes) (8 minute preemption during episode)
6/20/94 1-130 & 145-2 (45 minutes); 130-145 PBO (74 percent affs)
6/28/94 (41 minutes) (19 minute preemption during episode)

6/30/94 ABC News: OJ Pre-Trial 1 (12-3PM)

7/1/94 ABC News: OJ Pre-Trial 4 (1225-3PM)

7/5/94 ABC News: OJ Pre-Trial 5 (12-3PM) 

7/6/94 ABC News: OJ Pre-Trial 7 (12-2PM)

7/7/94 ABC News: OJ Pre-Trial 10 (12-3PM)

7/8/94 ABC News: OJ Pre-Trial 12 (12-310PM)

7/22/94 Mike & Maty Special (1-130PM) & ABC News: OJ- Arraignment (130-2PM)
8/19/94 1-130 (30 minutes)
9/16/94 (50 minutes) (10 minute preemption during episode)
11/24/94 ABC College Football Special (11AM-248PM)

11/25/94 ABC College Football Special 1: Various Teams (11AM-242PM)

1/2/95 Florida Citrus Bowl (1-456PM)

1/15/95 Primetime Special: All My Children- 25th Anniversary (8-9PM)

1/24/95 1-122 (22 minutes)
1/25/95 OJ Trial- 3 (1256-308PM)
1/30/95 OJ Trial- 6 (1-304PM)
1/31/95 101-2 (59 minutes)
2/6/95 1-153 (53 minutes)
2/27/95 1-154 (54 minutes)
4/19/95 Unrated special report (timings unknown)
4/20/95 (53 minutes) (7 minute preemption during episode)
8/10/95 1-130 (30 minutes)
8/16/95 110-2 (50 minutes)
9/4/95 (rated as breakout)
9/26/95 1-129 (29 minutes; rated as breakout)

10/3/95 ABC News Special (1230-3PM)

10/16/95 127-2 (33 minutes)
11/8/95 124-2 (36 minutes); 1-124 PBO (80 percent affs)

11/23/95 ABC College Football (11AM-207PM)

11/24/95 ABC College Football: Various Teams (11-238PM)

12/25/95 Kelly Blue-Gray Football (12-330PM)

 

Another World Preemptions: 1994-1995: 

 

1/17/94 NBC News Special Report: Quake (1230-5PM)

2/1/94 2-230 & 256-3 (34 minutes); 230-256 PBO (50 percent affs)

5/23/94 220-3 (40 minutes); 2-220 PBO (48 percent affs)

5/30/94 (Local Fill for NBA Playoff: 325-630PM) 

6/30/94 NBC Special: OJ Pre-Trial 1 (12-251PM) & Wimbledon Tennis (251-451PM)

7/1/94 NBC Special: OJ Pre-Trial 4 (12-302PM)
7/5/94 NBC Special: OJ Pre-Trial 6 (12-3PM)
7/6/94 NBC Special: OJ Pre-Trial 9 (1229-3PM)
7/7/94 NBC Special: OJ Pre-Trial 12 (12-3PM)
7/8/94 NBC Special: OJ Pre-Trial 15 (1220-307PM)

7/25/94 2-212 & 247-3 (25 minutes); 212-247 PBO (43 percent affs)

10/7/94 227-3 (33 minutes); 2-227 PBO (51 percent affs)

11/24/94 NFL Game (1230-327PM)
1/2/95 Cotton Bowl (1-437PM)

1/23/95 OJ Simpson Trial 1 (1-214PM) & Unrated special report (timings uknown)
1/24/95 OJ Simpson Trial 2 (1-311PM)
1/25/95 OJ Simpson Trial 4 (106-309PM)
1/26/95 Unrated OJ Simpson Trial 5 (timings unknown)
1/30/95 OJ Simpson Trial 6 (1-303PM)

4/19/95 216-3 (44 minutes; rated as breakout)

4/21/95 218-3 (42 minutes); 2-218 PBO (79 percent affs)

7/3/95 Wimbledon Tennis (10A-3PM)
7/4/95 Wimbledon Tennis (10A-3PM)
7/6/95 Wimbledon Tennis (1-5PM)
7/7/95 Wimbledon Tennis (1-5PM)

10/3/95 OJ Verdict 2 (130-330PM)

11/21/95 2-205 & 218-3 (47 minutes); 205-218 PBO (88 percent affs)

11/23/95 (Local Fill for NFL Game: 4-709PM)

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by JAS0N47

As the World Turns: Preemptions 1994-1995:

 

1/14/94 2-254 (54 minutes)

1/17/94 CBS Special Report 2: Southern California Quake (130-4PM)

2/1/94 216-3 (16 minute preemption during episode); 2-216 PBO (82 percent affs)

2/21/94 XVII Winter Olympics (1-6PM)

3/8/94 2-212 & 243-3 (29 minutes); 212-243 PBO (82 percent affs)

3/17/94 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-240PM) & NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (240-5PM)
3/18/94 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-232PM) & NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (232-5PM)

4/22/94 250-3 (10 minutes); 2-250 PBO (80 percent affs)

5/23/94 228-3 (32 minutes)

6/20/94 2-256 (56 minutes)

6/30/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1230-3PM)
7/1/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1224-3PM)
7/5/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (12-3PM)
7/6/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1230-3PM)
7/7/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1259-3PM)
7/8/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1230-3PM)

7/25/94 244-3 (16 minutes)

8/19/94 208-3 (52 minutes)

9/5/94 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)
9/9/94 US Open Tennis 2 (1258-504PM)

10/7/94 224-3 (36 minutes)
11/9/94 215-3 (45 minutes); 2-215 PBO (82 percent affs)

11/24/94 Thanksgiving Family Movie: Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1230-230PM) & Eye on Sports: Skating (230-4PM)

12/30/94 CBS Soap Break (2-230PM) & Sun Bowl (230-630PM)

1/2/95 Carquest Auto Parts Bowl (130-503PM)

1/23/95 CBS News: OJ Trial- 2 (1230-3PM)
1/24/95 Unrated special report (timings unknown)

1/25/95 CBS News: OJ Trial- 6 (2-230PM) & unrated special report (unknown timings)

1/30/95 CBS News: OJ Trial- 9 (130-301PM)

3/16/95 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-235PM) & NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (235-5PM)
3/17/95 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-236PM) & NCAA Basektball: Various Teams (236-5PM)

4/19/95 204-3 (56 minutes)

4/20/95 2-212 (12 minutes); 212-3 PBO (81 percent affs)

4/21/95 218-3; 2-218 PBO (81 percent affs)

9/4/95 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)
9/8/95 US Open Tennis 2 (1251-5PM)

9/26/95 CBS News Special Report: OJ Sum (130-3PM)

9/27/95 (rated as breakout)

10/3/95 CBS News Special: OJ Verdict (1230-4PM)

11/23/95 Thanksgiving Family Movie: Lassie Come Home (1230-230PM) & CBS Sports Show: World Ride: The Possible Dream (230-4PM)

12/29/95 CBS Soap Break (2-230PM) & Sun Bowl (230-622PM)

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by JAS0N47

On 10/20/2023 at 6:50 PM, JAS0N47 said:

Preemptions 1994-1995:

These dates will show up on all the CBS soaps

1/17/94 - Los Angeles earthquake coverage

2/21/94 - Lillehammer Olympics

3/17/94 - March Madness

3/18/94 - March Madness

9/5/94 - US Open

9/9/94 - US Open

11/24/94 - Thanksgiving

1/2/95 - Carquest Bowl

3/16/95 - March Madness

3/17/95 - March Madness

9/4/95 - US Open

9/8/95 - US Open

11/23/95 - Thanksgiving

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by kalbir

Bold and the Beautiful: Preemptions: 1994-1995

 

1/17/94 CBS Special Report 2: Southern California Quake (130-4PM)

2/21/94 XVII Winter Olympics (1-6PM)

3/17/94 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-240PM)

3/18/94 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-232PM)

5/23/94 130-151 (21 minutes)

6/30/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1230-3PM)

7/1/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1224-3PM)

7/5/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (12-3PM)

7/6/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1230-3PM)

7/7/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1259-3PM)

7/8/94 CBS News: OJ Hearing (1230-3PM)

7/22/94 150-2 (10 minutes)

7/25/94 CBS News: OJ- Motion Hearing (1212-244PM)

8/19/94 Unrated special report (timings unknown)

9/5/94 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)

9/9/94 US Open Tennis 2 (1258-504PM)

11/24/94 Thanksgiving Family Movie: Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1230-230PM)

1/2/95 Carquest Auto Parts Bowl (130-503PM)

1/23/95 CBS News: OJ Trial- 2 (1230-3PM)

1/24/95 Unrated special report (timings unknown)

1/25/95 Special time airing: 330-4PM (rated as special)

1/30/95 CBS News: OJ Trial- 9 (130-301PM)

3/16/95 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-235PM)

3/17/95 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (12-236PM)

4/19/95 Unrated special report (timings unknown)

9/4/95 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)

9/8/95 US Open Tennis 2 (1251-5PM)

9/26/95 CBS News Special Report: OJ Sum (130-3PM)

9/27/95 (rated as breakout)

10/3/95 CBS News Special: OJ Verdict (1230-4PM)

11/23/95 Thanksgiving Family Movie: Lassie Come Home (1230-230PM)

 

City: Preemptions: 1995

 

11/23/95 ABC College Football (11AM-207PM)

11/24/95 ABC College Football: Various Teams (11-238PM)

12/25/95 Kelly Blue-Gray Football (12-330PM)

Edited October 22, 20232 yr by JAS0N47