A recent comment I saw about Carolyn Hinsey's epic 2008 firing from SOW had me thinking. In all the years in reading the soap press are there any particular offbeat or peculiar moments that still stick out to any of you to this day here in 2018? I certainly recall a strange few for starters: 

 

--In 1989, it was rumored the usually mild-mannered and generally admired longtime P&G veteran producer Joe Willmore, who was EP at GL was constantly losing his temperament and was very controlling; the cast and crew didn't shed any tears when Calhoun came in to replace and Willmore left P&G without fanfare. 

 

--A January 1992 issue of Soap Opera Update predicted that Brian, Ginger, Molly and Tanner on Days would be the real stars of the show with Molly & Tanner destined to become Days' IT/hottest supercouple of the year. In reality, all four characters caused the show to tank badly. 

 

--Circa summer 1996, Victoria Wyndham went to a Rhode Island ice shop and apparently was quite rude to the store owner and their mother. The alleged incident seemed to haunt Wyndham for several years on the net following it first surfacing. 

 

--In the summer of 1998, an OLTL fan mailed a bizarre letter to SOD's fan mail section stating they had enjoyed Maggie Andersson as Jessica for years and stated they did not like the new recast and wanted to know the name of the new Jessica actress. SOD had to awkwardly correct the OLTL fan stating that Andersson had just been a temporary recast and that Erin Torpey was the original actress. @SFK

 

--Ken Corday declaring war on SOW after they named the Gina story on Days the Worst Story of 1999; he boycotted giving any interviews with the rag for a good year. 

 

--Any of the strange interviews that JER and Brad Bell did with Michael Logan in the spring of 2004 regarding their plans for the respective shows Days and B&B. Let's just be thankful none of it came to pass. 

 

 

Edited September 13, 20187 yr by soapfan770

1 minute ago, mikelyons said:

Very interesting. If Bill Bell were still in charge of Y&R when that blurb came out, I doubt she would've been welcomed back to the show. I don't know what Deidre did, but in Bill's Academy of Television interview they ask him about Deidre and he says, "If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all." And he's dead serious. No jokes. You can cut the tension with a knife. I've always wondered what happened there!

I saw that too He got DH her job on Days in 1976 and she pretty much never thanked him and snubbed him over the years. 

 

I also remember posts that DH did porn in the 60's when she started out and you can find the photos online. I have read the same thing about Victoria Principal from Dallas.

 

VP has also had some bizarre stuff written about her over the years. A few years ago she pulled a gun on her maid who stole from her. The feud with Joan Rivers, paying to go to the moon on a space flight, her messy relationship with Andy Gibb etc...

12 minutes ago, SoapDope said:

VP has also had some bizarre stuff written about her over the years. A few years ago she pulled a gun on her maid who stole from her. The feud with Joan Rivers, paying to go to the moon on a space flight, her messy relationship with Andy Gibb etc...

 

Her messy divorce from her plastic surgeon husband was a soap opera in and of itself. What's the Joan Rivers feud story? I hadn't heard that one.

All I can recall about the Joan vs. Victoria feud is that Joan gave out Victoria's actual phone number on her short-lived talk show.  I THINK it was because Joan hated whatever skin care or exercise product that Victoria was pushing at the moment, but I can't be sure.

Speaking of Victoria....what about the feud between Larry Hagman and Donna Reed and how he made her time on Dallas a living hell.

Just now, Soapsuds said:

Speaking of Victoria....what about the feud between Larry Hagman and Donna Reed and how he made her time on Dallas a living hell.

 

I feel like Hagman was loyal to Barbara Bel Geddes and therefore didn't appreciate the role of Miss Ellie being recast.  Was there more to it than that?

1 minute ago, Khan said:

 

I feel like Hagman was loyal to Barbara Bel Geddes and therefore didn't appreciate the role of Miss Ellie being recast.  Was there more to it than that?

Nope...but making the lighting bad for her ......I forget what else....

2 hours ago, Khan said:

All I can recall about the Joan vs. Victoria feud is that Joan gave out Victoria's actual phone number on her short-lived talk show.  I THINK it was because Joan hated whatever skin care or exercise product that Victoria was pushing at the moment, but I can't be sure.

If I recall right, Joan also had some issues with Victoria's vanity (which, coming from Joan ...). I want to say Joan caught Victoria on air in a fib about her age. Victoria claimed to be born in 1950, but also said she was the first American baby born in Japan after the war.

Edited May 16, 20187 yr by Franko

6 hours ago, Franko said:

If I recall right, Joan also had some issues with Victoria's vanity (which, coming from Joan ...). I want to say Joan caught Victoria on air in a fib about her age. Victoria claimed to be born in 1950, but also said she was the first American baby born in Japan after the war.

Yes. Joan said that would have made Victoria born in 1945. There is an interview on youtube of Joan with Andy Gibb and she starts slamming VP's age and questioning Andy about it. Andy jokes that Vicki is still the same age she was when I met her.....LOL At one time people where going to Wikipedia correcting her birth year to 1945 and I think legal action was taken and her birth year was put at 1950. 

 

VP always seemed to be an outsider in the cast. PD, LH, LG ,SK and CT are thick as thieves. VP never does reunions with them. 

Edited May 16, 20187 yr by SoapDope

Well, VP did that "Return to Southfork" retrospective some years ago. I think that's the only reunion she participated in.

 

I also remember the uproar Y&R faced about 20 years ago with the Neil/Victoria potential pairing. Didn't Heather Tom get death threats and that's the main reason why the show dropped the pairing?

1 hour ago, amybrickwallace said:

Well, VP did that "Return to Southfork" retrospective some years ago. I think that's the only reunion she participated in.

 

I also remember the uproar Y&R faced about 20 years ago with the Neil/Victoria potential pairing. Didn't Heather Tom get death threats and that's the main reason why the show dropped the pairing?

 

I remember that controversy too. I didn't know she received death threats. They quickly dropped the storyline. 

 

Yes VP did do that one reunion, but that was it. She was asked in one interview who she was close to in the Dallas cast and she said Ken Kercheval and the late Jim Davis. One would assume she would say Patrick. Patrick did one interview that said Bobby's marriage to Pam was messed up.....LOL

1 hour ago, amybrickwallace said:

Well, VP did that "Return to Southfork" retrospective some years ago. I think that's the only reunion she participated in.

 

I also remember the uproar Y&R faced about 20 years ago with the Neil/Victoria potential pairing. Didn't Heather Tom get death threats and that's the main reason why the show dropped the pairing?

 

I didn't know Heather did but I think I remember KSJ saying he'd gotten some. 

7 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

I didn't know Heather did but I think I remember KSJ saying he'd gotten some. 

 

I may have mixed up HT with Adrienne Frantz, who said she got death threats when Amber had the fling with the singer played by Usher on B&B. 

7 hours ago, SoapDope said:

She was asked in one interview who she was close to in the Dallas cast and she said Ken Kercheval and the late Jim Davis. 

 

Yes, I remember reading articles from the day and soon after the passing of Jim Davis that they looked at each other as surrogate father and daughter. His own daughter had died young and supposedly somewhat resembled VP, so he took her under his wing.

 

I loved Ken Kercheval on the show!! To this day, I call him "the EMBITTERED Cliff Barnes"!!! 😊 😂

Edited May 16, 20187 yr by amybrickwallace

2 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

 

I may have mixed up HT with Adrienne Frantz, who stayed she got death threats when Amber had the fling with the singer played by Usher on B&B. 

 

Yes, I remember reading articles from the day and soon after the passing of Jim Davis that they looked at each other as surrogate father and daughter. His own daughter had died young and supposedly somewhat resembled VP, so he took her under his wing.

 

I loved Ken Kercheval on the show!! To this day, I call him "the EMBITTERED Cliff Barnes"!!! 😊 😂

 

KK was a bit quirky that made the character of Cliff interesting and believable. JD seemed to be adored by all of the cast. The bloopers are hilarious, especially when he calls Miss Ellie the C word when she's leaving.......LOL Here is the interview with Joan and Andy where they trash Victoria Principal.

 

 

Edited May 16, 20187 yr by SoapDope

13 hours ago, SoapDope said:

 

I also remember posts that DH did porn in the 60's when she started out and you can find the photos online. I have read the same thing about Victoria Principal from Dallas.

 

 

Porn or just topless photos? Huge difference. I've seen Deidre's tittie shots but I certainly wouldn't put that in the same category as that one chick from Passions... 

6 minutes ago, Gray Bunny said:

 

Porn or just topless photos? Huge difference. I've seen Deidre's tittie shots but I certainly wouldn't put that in the same category as that one chick from Passions... 

It was photos. Victoria Principal did nude photos for Playboy in the early 70's, but some people claim they saw her in hardcore films before she hit big. I doubt it. She was Miss Miami in 1969 and was doing modeling and commercials before her acting career took off.