2 hours ago, cassadine1991 said:

I still say in order for me to care about this sex ring storyline is for someone Sharon cares about (a SORASed Faith) or connected to the canvas to get kidnapped (isn't Summer still traveling the world) and forced into it. AMC did it great with Cassandra.

 

Totally agree here. Someone connected to canvas needs to be taken.   

1 minute ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Totally agree here. Someone connected to canvas needs to be taken.   

Yeah, this story can be salvageable 

54 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Totally agree here. Someone connected to canvas needs to be taken.   

 

Like another poster said, Summer should be involved. 

 

1 hour ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

Like another poster said, Summer should be involved. 

 

But then Summer would be back on the show and that is unacceptable.  Well, I suppose it would give Phyllis something to do other than obsess over Billy, so there's that.

7 hours ago, cassadine1991 said:

I still say in order for me to care about this sex ring storyline is for someone Sharon cares about (a SORASed Faith) or connected to the canvas to get kidnapped (isn't Summer still traveling the world) and forced into it. AMC did it great with Cassandra.

It would make it interesting for sure.

 

And I was right there with Jesse and Angie during that Cassandra story. I miss the onlines.

6 hours ago, Juliajms said:

But then Summer would be back on the show and that is unacceptable.  Well, I suppose it would give Phyllis something to do other than obsess over Billy, so there's that.

 

Since red headed Summer isn't an Abbott, maybe she'll want a go at Billy.

6 hours ago, Taoboi said:

It would make it interesting for sure.

 

And I was right there with Jesse and Angie during that Cassandra story. I miss the onlines.

 

Me too. I do think the story had such "bite" specifically because it was online and out of reach of network interference, which is why I'm dubious that today's Y&R can produce a story with a similar edge-- too many "bean counters" to answer to.

3 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Me too. I do think the story had such "bite" specifically because it was online and out of reach of network interference, which is why I'm dubious that today's Y&R can produce a story with a similar edge-- too many "bean counters" to answer to.

Agree.  it might have been long, but I never felt like they were missing the beats. Right now I don't mind that the only character I feel invested in is Sharon. It's a test for the reset Sharon. However, the stakes are pretty low now and maybe it will be higher soon.

2 hours ago, Taoboi said:

Agree.  it might have been long, but I never felt like they were missing the beats. Right now I don't mind that the only character I feel invested in is Sharon. It's a test for the reset Sharon. However, the stakes are pretty low now and maybe it will be higher soon.

 

Agreed.

 

But even if they involved Summer who I could care less about, or a teenage Faith, I still likely wouldn't be invested in the story ... lol

13 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I said last week how tired I was of the writing for Hilary. It's the same thing over and over just using different characters. It's tedious and uninteresting. 

 

I'm gonna break it down and say...it sucks. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

I'm gonna break it down and say...it sucks. 

 

 

 

What he said! 

13 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

I'm gonna break it down and say...it sucks. 

 

 

 

It really does. So disappointing.

 

And sorry @ajsp35801 I do remember you saying something similar. I had just gotten caught up and wanted to throw that out there.

5 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

It really does. So disappointing.

 

And sorry @ajsp35801 I do remember you saying something similar. I had just gotten caught up and wanted to throw that out there.

 

No problem 

 

I feel like every female character the show thinks needs a win or a story boost  gets to rival and talk down to hilary. They've played the same story/beat with hilary and several characters for over a year now. First, Ashley. Then Mariah. Over the last 3 months we've had Tessa thrown in for good measure. Cane. Nick. Now Vikki. It's overkill. 

16 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

No problem 

 

I feel like every female character the show thinks needs a win or a story boost  gets to rival and talk down to hilary. They've played the same story/beat with hilary and several characters for over a year now. First, Ashley. Then Mariah. Over the last 3 months we've had Tessa thrown in for good measure. Cane. Nick. Now Vikki. It's overkill. 

 

Don't forget Sharon and the Dylan mess.

 

It's total overkill. I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish. I cringed so badly seeing her recording Victoria and Ben. I kind of didn't mind her and Howard behind the car capturing Victor/Nick but it's enough.

 

And I don't really like how she's sort of ... bitchy towards anyone who tries to talk to her. She just comes off as fake and like she can't be bothered by anyone. Maybe it's how Mishael plays it but none of this is working for me. Mishael is great and Hilary has SO much potential so it's really frustrating.

9 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

Don't forget Sharon and the Dylan mess.

 

It's total overkill. I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish. I cringed so badly seeing her recording Victoria and Ben. I kind of didn't mind her and Howard behind the car capturing Victor/Nick but it's enough.

 

And I don't really like how she's sort of ... bitchy towards anyone who tries to talk to her. She just comes off as fake and like she can't be bothered by anyone. Maybe it's how Mishael plays it but none of this is working for me. Mishael is great and Hilary has SO much potential so it's really frustrating.

 

I had completely forgotten about Sharon and Dylan drama. 

 

I think Mishael is giving them exactly what they want from her. When Hilary is written to be concerned, Mishael plays that. She's rarely written to be sincere. We know this because a scene later or the following week, Hilary does or says the complete opposite of whatever she said previously. You aren't supposed to trust her. You aren't supposed to like her. You're supposed to root for whatever character they put up against her.

 

I don't mind her being bitchy when almost every scene she has is someone calling her evil, nasty, disgusting, etc to her face. If it weren't for Mishael's line delivery, the [!@#$%^&*] on Hilary routine would look even worse than does. 

 

If this isn't some who shot Hilary story with the entire canvas  as suspects then the writing is even more assinine and heavy handed than it appears to be.