And Noah should definitely be working for Hamilton Winters.

20 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

And Noah should definitely be working for Hamilton Winters.

Yeah. I miss when he was doing music and being a photographer

14 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

They would & they do. Ashley & Nikki alone spend half their screentime screaming at Jack & Victor about the decisions they make.

 

The problem with Hilary (as a vixen) is that she doesn't have a best friend (or two) to balance things out. The Mariah relationship had potential but Y&R's insistence on pairing her with Devon ruined that.

 

Victor (used to) have Douglas, Diane had Marissa, Drucilla & Sharon had each other, Nina had Cricket & Danny, Cricket had Lynne, Grace had Tony, Phyllis had Malcolm, Joni & Michael, Chelsea has Jordan, etc.

 

I see your point. I just tend to think Nikki and Ashley have never had a problem with Victor and Jack's business ruthlessness per se, they just can't wrap their minds around their occasional, barely legal outbursts. In the meantime, Hilary is supposed to host a charity tabloid show of sorts, pleasing everyone.

 

I totally agree that characters need some friends to bounce off too again! I loved this aspect back then. I think they are trying to bring it back, starting with Chelsea and Jordan. The problem with Hilary is also that she has to put up with an albatross like sanctimonious Devon, who seems to be exclusively interested in redeeming her.  

3 hours ago, Aback said:

 In the meantime, Hilary is supposed to host a charity tabloid show of sorts, pleasing everyone.

 

The other problem where Hilary is concerned is Y&R's extremely laziness in developing other characters so they utilize Hilary to facilitate the plot.

 

There is no reason she should be a central character in Juliet's story but because Juliet remains a generically written stock character with weak relationships and even weaker motivations (how effective would the pregnancy reveal have been if Y&R had expended half the energy they used to shove Hilary into the story into building a genuine relationship between Juliet, Lily, Charlie & Mattie) so Y&R uses Hilary to keep things interesting.

 

It wouldn't be so bad if they only did it with this one story (since the majority of the characters involved are ones she has serious history with) but they've done it with almost every story over the past couple of years.

 

I'm actually waiting until they shove her into one of the few stories she has little to no presence in thus far (Scotty & Abby at Newman) since endless amounts of meet-cute scenes and underwritten potential villains have failed maintain viewer interest.

 

 

Hilary's first order of business after this story is complete will be making that music story of Devon's interesting since centering it around heroine Mariah hasn't produced much interest. So Hilary will be thrust into it as antagonist for Mariah AND Tessa.  Tessa is tied to Abby's story since she knows that Zach guy. So @deedee, Hilary being in that Abby and Scott story at Newman isn't far fetched. Wait for it...and didn't Newman buy a media company? I find it hard to believe that won't have repercussions for Hilary. 

 

@cassadine1991, while Mariah at Newman working with Summer and Abby is a great place for Mariah, during those stories she was never much of anything but part of the peanut gallery.  I think the entire purpose of her as Hilary's rival and Devon's love interest was to give her a more prominent role in story. lead vs supporting. 

 

Edited July 3, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

1 hour ago, DeeeDee said:

The other problem where Hilary is concerned is Y&R's extremely laziness in developing other characters so they utilize Hilary to facilitate the plot.

 

There is no reason she should be a central character in Juliet's story but because Juliet remains a generically written stock character with weak relationships and even weaker motivations (how effective would the pregnancy reveal have been if Y&R had expended half the energy they used to shove Hilary into the story into building a genuine relationship between Juliet, Lily, Charlie & Mattie) so Y&R uses Hilary to keep things interesting.

 

Big agree! 

2 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

Hilary's first order of business after this story is complete will be making that music story of Devon's interesting since centering it around heroine Mariah hasn't produced much interest. So Hilary will be thrust into it as antagonist for Mariah AND Tessa.  Tessa is tied to Abby's story since she knows that Zach guy. So @deedee, Hilary being in that Abby and Scott story at Newman isn't far fetched. Wait for it...and didn't Newman buy a media company? I find it hard to believe that won't have repercussions for Hilary. 

 

Hilary being double teamed by Mariah AND Tessa everywhere she goes? [Katherine Chancellor] Dear God In Heaven [/Katherine Chancellor]

Monday July 3, 2017

 

Kevin complained to Chloe that being locked inside was no way to spend summer. They searched the house and found an unlocked window, which they cracked open. Unfortunately, the fog that turns people inside out was lurking outside and seeped into the room. Kevin and Chloe were unable to escape and succumbed to their injuries.

Edited July 3, 20178 yr by juppiter

3 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

@cassadine1991, while Mariah at Newman working with Summer and Abby is a great place for Mariah, during those stories she was never much of anything but part of the peanut gallery.  I think the entire purpose of her as Hilary's rival and Devon's love interest was to give her a more prominent role in story. lead vs supporting. 

 

Wasn't that mostly because Pratt and JFP love writing for them specifically 

35 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

Wasn't that mostly because Pratt and JFP love writing for them specifically 

 

That's true, imo. 

And that she didn't fit the mold of female characters they like specifically 

Nick possessively staring Scotty down over Sharon. 

4 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Nick possessively staring Scotty down over Sharon. 

Some will swear that never happened to suit their fanbase agenda....

10 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Some will swear that never happened to suit their fanbase agenda....

 

+1

21 hours ago, GSGfan2017 said:

 

Well, the purpose of the rape wouldn't be to titillate the audience.  There could be a PSA such as this one.

 

It's been a long time since any soap was able to handle a subject like that in a responsible way. So for everyone's sake it's better that they steer well clear of any story of that kind for the rest of their existence.