With the ratings drops this is a conversation Sony is likely having whether we agree with the thread or not. 

5 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

Well SSM is definitely operating in a different era and while I applaud her for trying to fix terrible damage done to long-running and beloved characters, it's still a business of getting viewers. Right now, there is nothing 'urgent' happening on the show and a key part of daytime viewing is frequency. For example if viewers who normally watch 4 days, cuts down to 3 - that's a 25% drop.  I'll keep reading day-ahead write-up and decide if worth watching, but there's nothing compelling to tune in. There's just too many other scripted shows out there that I'd choose to DVR or stream. I really hope these 'character studies' will pay off because I want her to succeed. I just don't know if CBS (and POP, which has seen a drop since the regime switch) will have that kind of patience. 

 

Just a question: Is it possible that reading those day-ahead write-ups lessens your enjoyment of the episodes you do watch? If I stumble on some next-day story development on Twitter or here (without looking for it), it does lessen the enjoyment of the show for me. Those moments are seen and experienced differently.

 

I understand your wanting to save time for other shows, but I actually think you might enjoy the episodes you watch more if you didn't have an outline of what would happen. I rue the day when soaps decided that spoilers were a good thing.

27 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

With the ratings drops this is a conversation Sony is likely having whether we agree with the thread or not. 

 

+1. And Sally's excuse can't be "the show was so damaged" because this is why she and the Great Kate were brought in, right?  The characters are dull and there is literally nothing going on. I will say it again, it's seriously time to consider retiring Vicky. AH, the corpse that she is, is not worth the airtime she's getting. 

8 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

 

+1. And Sally's excuse can't be "the show was so damaged" because this is why she and the Great Kate were brought in, right?  The characters are dull and there is literally nothing going on. I will say it again, it's seriously time to consider retiring Vicky. AH, the corpse that she is, is not worth the airtime she's getting. 

 

I think she needs a co-head writer. She's never been a HW known for high ratings or big quality moments. Of course we can say that the show shouldn't care about ratings losses and that will take a long time to fix, which I can agree with, but I think they need to make some big onscreen changes now rather than kicking the can. I don't believe that the show has such incredible viewer touchstones that the audience will revolt if some of them are written out. If they were that awesome the ratings wouldn't keep steadily declining. 

12 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

I think she needs a co-head writer. She's never been a HW known for high ratings or big quality moments. Of course we can say that the show shouldn't care about ratings losses and that will take a long time to fix, which I can agree with, but I think they need to make some big onscreen changes now rather than kicking the can. I don't believe that the show has such incredible viewer touchstones that the audience will revolt if some of them are written out. If they were that awesome the ratings wouldn't keep steadily declining. 

 

The ratings were also much higher with some of these same folks getting just as much airtime. So really, is it the characters? 

 

I think CBS and Sony just let Pratt write the show into the ground. We already know it's hard to get viewers back once they leave. 

It's especially difficult to get viewers back when nothing's happening and the characters are dreadfully boring. 

 

Chit exactly the ratings are crashing of SallIUGH writing. Its dreadfully dull and no big stories happening. I find myself missing Pratt stuff at least it entertained. The show is terrible.

13 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

I think she needs a co-head writer. She's never been a HW known for high ratings or big quality moments. Of course we can say that the show shouldn't care about ratings losses and that will take a long time to fix, which I can agree with, but I think they need to make some big onscreen changes now rather than kicking the can. I don't believe that the show has such incredible viewer touchstones that the audience will revolt if some of them are written out. If they were that awesome the ratings wouldn't keep steadily declining. 

KA maybe needs to be promoted to Co-HW. How far have the ratings dropped?

 

I dont think KA wants to be head writer. How about Lorraine Broderick as co head writer?

42 minutes ago, Roman said:

KA maybe needs to be promoted to Co-HW. How far have the ratings dropped?

 

They have been in the same place for months. They did rebound a bit for Devon's accident and the fallout at the hospital. But then went right back to where they were. 

33 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

They have been in the same place for months. They did rebound a bit for Devon's accident and the fallout at the hospital. But then went right back to where they were. 

IA with you....they are rebuilding characters, but seems right now that the most action is Gloria and her Towering Inferno Building scene chewing. There has been more layers that have been written into characters since she started, but at times it does seem like she wants to do what she wants regardless of what is best for content and story. I will still give it until fall...and if it's the same thing, then some serious changes should be made. I wonder now.....was the interview she gave a detriment to her? I myself welcomed some of the things she said, but some of the other stuff....like basically not even acknowledging other stories that have been going on....might have rubbed people the wrong way, on top of, for instance, Nikki and Sharon's relationship going back and forth right now. JMO.

55 minutes ago, Roman said:

IA with you....they are rebuilding characters, but seems right now that the most action is Gloria and her Towering Inferno Building scene chewing. There has been more layers that have been written into characters since she started, but at times it does seem like she wants to do what she wants regardless of what is best for content and story. I will still give it until fall...and if it's the same thing, then some serious changes should be made. I wonder now.....was the interview she gave a detriment to her? I myself welcomed some of the things she said, but some of the other stuff....like basically not even acknowledging other stories that have been going on....might have rubbed people the wrong way, on top of, for instance, Nikki and Sharon's relationship going back and forth right now. JMO.

 

I think Sally is reconfiguring her canvas in preparation to tell stories she wants to tell. She's reestablishing relationships and dynamics so that things will make sense in the long run. At least I hope so. 

 

Oh, I definitely agree that her interview hurt her and pissed folks off. But the people who would even know about that interview are a very small segment of the audience. Are twitter stans now bitter? Yes, but they were bitter before. I don't think the interview affected ratings. 

 

Tbh, I think a huge part of the ratings issue is politics being so entertaining. Better than any scripted drama. 

I actually love reading the Canadian day ahead spoilers now.  I didn't do it for such a long time because I didn't care what was going to happen on tomorrow's episode, but now I do.  I just have two complaints about the show, AH no matter who is writing or producing the show and Gloria being given such a large piece of the story.

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

They have been in the same place for months. They did rebound a bit for Devon's accident and the fallout at the hospital. But then went right back to where they were. 

Other than Dylan's story ending and the Devon SL, everything is moving slower. that may be it. I don't know. LOL

 

Amelia Heinle has bern there 12 years and two emmys back to back and shes up for emmy consideration again.  I dont see her being let go.