Aren't these scenes between Liam and Steffy a redux…oh yeah Liam had the same talk with Hope after what Quinn did….and Hope married Wyatt….so waiting on Steffy getting pregnant….then we will find out that Quinn is pregnant with Liam's child….next Liam will tell Quinn and Steffy to abort their babies…..Quinn meets with Steffy at Forrester mansion…..Steffy loses her balance and falls down the steps outside of Forrester Mansion….Steffy leaves LA…..Quinn goes in hiding to have her baby…..Wyatt and Liam are left heartbroken…..sounds familiar.

Liam yelling and screaming at Steffy today was horrible. He is hurt and so its all about him. He needs to suffer and end up with Quinn. I am so sick of the holier than thou Liam….enough!

Liam yelling and screaming at Steffy today was horrible. He is hurt and so its all about him. He needs to suffer and end up with Quinn. I am so sick of the holier than thou Liam….enough!

Bless you. Why isn't Steffy hitting back hard with the dumping before he left. Thank goodness for Quinn. That last scene was fantastic.  

Liam yelling and screaming at Steffy today was horrible. He is hurt and so its all about him. He needs to suffer and end up with Quinn. I am so sick of the holier than thou Liam….enough!

Bless you. Why isn't Steffy hitting back hard with the dumping before he left. Thank goodness for Quinn. That last scene was fantastic.  

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

 

Liam yelling and screaming at Steffy today was horrible. He is hurt and so its all about him. He needs to suffer and end up with Quinn. I am so sick of the holier than thou Liam….enough!

Bless you. Why isn't Steffy hitting back hard with the dumping before he left. Thank goodness for Quinn. That last scene was fantastic.  

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

no he didnt

 

Liam yelling and screaming at Steffy today was horrible. He is hurt and so its all about him. He needs to suffer and end up with Quinn. I am so sick of the holier than thou Liam….enough!

Bless you. Why isn't Steffy hitting back hard with the dumping before he left. Thank goodness for Quinn. That last scene was fantastic.  

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

no he didnt

Yes he did….even if he just suggested it

Edited April 28, 20169 yr by Soapsuds

 

Liam yelling and screaming at Steffy today was horrible. He is hurt and so its all about him. He needs to suffer and end up with Quinn. I am so sick of the holier than thou Liam….enough!

Bless you. Why isn't Steffy hitting back hard with the dumping before he left. Thank goodness for Quinn. That last scene was fantastic.  

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

no he didnt

Yes he did….even if he just suggested so it can be brushed off by some.

Absolutely!  Cheap is usually good with the facts, and I don't bother looking for receipts, but you are correct.  Liam did want Hope to abort.  

 

Liam yelling and screaming at Steffy today was horrible. He is hurt and so its all about him. He needs to suffer and end up with Quinn. I am so sick of the holier than thou Liam….enough!

Bless you. Why isn't Steffy hitting back hard with the dumping before he left. Thank goodness for Quinn. That last scene was fantastic.  

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

no he didnt

Yes he did….even if he just suggested so it can be brushed off by some.

Absolutely!  Cheap is usually good with the facts, and I don't bother looking for receipts, but you are correct.  Liam did want Hope to abort.  

The irony is Hope lost the baby but Liam didn't get her anyways…douchebag!

 

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

no he didnt

Yes he did….even if he just suggested so it can be brushed off by some.

Absolutely!  Cheap is usually good with the facts, and I don't bother looking for receipts, but you are correct.  Liam did want Hope to abort.  

No he didnt. A suggesting it not the same thing as trying to convince her into doing it. He brought it up as an option and when she said she couldnt do that, he accepted it and agreed to raise the baby with her. That was the end of that. He didnt try to convince or pressure her into anything. This is what actually transpired as seen in the Sept 23, 2014 episode

 

 

Liam: You haven't told Wyatt you're pregnant. We're the only ones who know right now.

 

Hope: Right, but, Liam, what you're saying --

 

Liam: But he -- he doesn't have to find out. I mean, I know this is -- this is hard to hear, but you wouldn't have any ties to him anymore, and after everything that we've been through, we could finally be together. Hope, there's just -- there's one thing you have to understand. If you have Wyatt’s baby... it's the end of us

 

Hope: I can't do that. I can’t. I can't do that. Liam, I-I want a life with you. I want the future that we always talked about. But not like that. I-I would always be wondering, you know, who he would have been, and -- and as hard as this is, and thinking about what it will do to us, it's just -- I'm -- I'm not okay with it. I'm not.

 

Liam: I understand.

 

Hope: You do?

 

Liam: Yeah. Of course. So you'll have the baby with Wyatt, and you'll have that incredible bond. But you can still be married to me, Hope. We can raise the baby together.

 

Hope: You really think that that's gonna work? The three of us are just going to raise this baby together? I appreciate you so much for -- for being willing to make this enormous sacrifice, but --

 

Liam: Hope. Loving you -- loving every part of you, even a child that is not mine -- that is not a sacrifice.

 

Hope: But it is. It is, and I can't let you do that.

 

Liam: I-I need to. I-I need -- I need you.

 

Hope: [Sighs] I don't know if it's gonna work. [Sighs] It's just -- Liam, you know how I grew up -- wondering why my parents weren't together -- so confused why -- why different men were always in and out of my life. And don't get me wrong. They were -- they were really good men. Ridge and Nick -- you know they helped raise me, and they were like father figures to me, but...they weren't my dad. And that's what I wanted. I wanted my dad. And so I told myself at a very early age that I was not gonna do that. I was not going to do what my mom did to me. I can't do it to the baby, and I don't want to do it to you. Liam, think about it. Y-you're -- you're asking to -- to raise this baby -- both you and Wyatt and me -- and I don't think you really understand what it is you're volunteering for. It's so much.

 

Liam: I'm not sitting here pretending it would be easy. But we'll find a way through it because...we don't have a choice. Hope.

 

Hope: [Sighs] I don't want to damage a family that hasn't even started. I can't do what my mother did to me. I won't do it to this baby, and I won't do it to you. This is just how it has to be.

Edited April 28, 20169 yr by Cheap21

Did y'all see Caroline practically talking to WhyUGHt like he was mentally challenged?  LG did a really good job yesterday.  This guy is a complete idiot.  He didn't get a word Caroline was saying.  She made certain not to appear to be taking sides, and she couldn't have been more objective if she tried.  Door #2 was not getting it.  

Don Diamont is a much better actor than people ever give him credit for. 

Don Diamont is a much better actor than people ever give him credit for. 

I agree.  He has a great presence and is lead material.  Very charismatic!  

Whutttt I can't even remember Hope was ever pregnant. Hearing about it doesn't even ring a bell. 

 

And I agree about DD's stage presence. I'm glad he (and HT) are getting some storyline again. He's appeared in every episode this month so far (I think).

 

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

no he didnt

Yes he did….even if he just suggested so it can be brushed off by some.

Absolutely!  Cheap is usually good with the facts, and I don't bother looking for receipts, but you are correct.  Liam did want Hope to abort.  

No he didnt. A suggesting it not the same thing as trying to convince her into doing it. He brought it up as an option and when she said she couldnt do that, he accepted it and agreed to raise the baby with her. That was the end of that. He didnt try to convince or pressure her into anything. This is what actually transpired as seen in the Sept 23, 2014 episode

 

 

Liam: You haven't told Wyatt you're pregnant. We're the only ones who know right now.

 

Hope: Right, but, Liam, what you're saying --

 

Liam: But he -- he doesn't have to find out. I mean, I know this is -- this is hard to hear, but you wouldn't have any ties to him anymore, and after everything that we've been through, we could finally be together. Hope, there's just -- there's one thing you have to understand. If you have Wyatt’s baby... it's the end of us

 

Hope: I can't do that. I can’t. I can't do that. Liam, I-I want a life with you. I want the future that we always talked about. But not like that. I-I would always be wondering, you know, who he would have been, and -- and as hard as this is, and thinking about what it will do to us, it's just -- I'm -- I'm not okay with it. I'm not.

 

Liam: I understand.

 

Hope: You do?

 

Liam: Yeah. Of course. So you'll have the baby with Wyatt, and you'll have that incredible bond. But you can still be married to me, Hope. We can raise the baby together.

 

Hope: You really think that that's gonna work? The three of us are just going to raise this baby together? I appreciate you so much for -- for being willing to make this enormous sacrifice, but --

 

Liam: Hope. Loving you -- loving every part of you, even a child that is not mine -- that is not a sacrifice.

 

Hope: But it is. It is, and I can't let you do that.

 

Liam: I-I need to. I-I need -- I need you.

 

Hope: [Sighs] I don't know if it's gonna work. [Sighs] It's just -- Liam, you know how I grew up -- wondering why my parents weren't together -- so confused why -- why different men were always in and out of my life. And don't get me wrong. They were -- they were really good men. Ridge and Nick -- you know they helped raise me, and they were like father figures to me, but...they weren't my dad. And that's what I wanted. I wanted my dad. And so I told myself at a very early age that I was not gonna do that. I was not going to do what my mom did to me. I can't do it to the baby, and I don't want to do it to you. Liam, think about it. Y-you're -- you're asking to -- to raise this baby -- both you and Wyatt and me -- and I don't think you really understand what it is you're volunteering for. It's so much.

 

Liam: I'm not sitting here pretending it would be easy. But we'll find a way through it because...we don't have a choice. Hope.

Hope: [Sighs] I don't want to damage a family that hasn't even started. I can't do what my mother did to me. I won't do it to this baby, and I won't do it to you. This is just how it has to be.

Suggesting a woman abort her child because he is not the father is heinous.  That is no better than downright asking/demanding.  It takes a special cretin to ask this of a woman. Disgusting!

 

Liam playing that guilt trip on Steffy was downright horrible. Didn't he also try to convince Hope into having an abortion?

no he didnt

Yes he did….even if he just suggested so it can be brushed off by some.

Absolutely!  Cheap is usually good with the facts, and I don't bother looking for receipts, but you are correct.  Liam did want Hope to abort.  

No he didnt. A suggesting it not the same thing as trying to convince her into doing it. He brought it up as an option and when she said she couldnt do that, he accepted it and agreed to raise the baby with her. That was the end of that. He didnt try to convince or pressure her into anything. This is what actually transpired as seen in the Sept 23, 2014 episode

 

 

Liam: You haven't told Wyatt you're pregnant. We're the only ones who know right now.

 

Hope: Right, but, Liam, what you're saying --

 

Liam: But he -- he doesn't have to find out. I mean, I know this is -- this is hard to hear, but you wouldn't have any ties to him anymore, and after everything that we've been through, we could finally be together. Hope, there's just -- there's one thing you have to understand. If you have Wyatt’s baby... it's the end of us

 

Hope: I can't do that. I can’t. I can't do that. Liam, I-I want a life with you. I want the future that we always talked about. But not like that. I-I would always be wondering, you know, who he would have been, and -- and as hard as this is, and thinking about what it will do to us, it's just -- I'm -- I'm not okay with it. I'm not.

 

Liam: I understand.

 

Hope: You do?

 

Liam: Yeah. Of course. So you'll have the baby with Wyatt, and you'll have that incredible bond. But you can still be married to me, Hope. We can raise the baby together.

 

Hope: You really think that that's gonna work? The three of us are just going to raise this baby together? I appreciate you so much for -- for being willing to make this enormous sacrifice, but --

 

Liam: Hope. Loving you -- loving every part of you, even a child that is not mine -- that is not a sacrifice.

 

Hope: But it is. It is, and I can't let you do that.

 

Liam: I-I need to. I-I need -- I need you.

 

Hope: [Sighs] I don't know if it's gonna work. [Sighs] It's just -- Liam, you know how I grew up -- wondering why my parents weren't together -- so confused why -- why different men were always in and out of my life. And don't get me wrong. They were -- they were really good men. Ridge and Nick -- you know they helped raise me, and they were like father figures to me, but...they weren't my dad. And that's what I wanted. I wanted my dad. And so I told myself at a very early age that I was not gonna do that. I was not going to do what my mom did to me. I can't do it to the baby, and I don't want to do it to you. Liam, think about it. Y-you're -- you're asking to -- to raise this baby -- both you and Wyatt and me -- and I don't think you really understand what it is you're volunteering for. It's so much.

 

Liam: I'm not sitting here pretending it would be easy. But we'll find a way through it because...we don't have a choice. Hope.

Hope: [Sighs] I don't want to damage a family that hasn't even started. I can't do what my mother did to me. I won't do it to this baby, and I won't do it to you. This is just how it has to be.

Suggesting a woman abort her child because he is not the father is heinous.  That is no better than downright asking/demanding.  It takes a special cretin to ask this of a woman. Disgusting!

Agreed!