I thought we were done with masks?! LORD HAVE MERCY ON US.

In other news, Samtrick are "breaking up" and Johnny is back!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152612698093731&set=p.10152612698093731&type=2&theater

Edited December 1, 201410 yr by alexisfan07

Guza never wrote any stories. He can't even construct a story usually, and he and his dialogue writers were dreadfully consistent in their incompetence. Stories under Guza were actually anti-stories where nothing happened and two people share scenes where they discuss the state of their couplehood or recap what they said yesterday. There was never point A to point B in his stories and no plot progression ever. I can't even think what stories Carly starred in. I know she was pregnant a lot, I know Lorenzo liked her, but two characters liking each other is not a story. Neither is being pregnant. She was on every day for ten years and you got me what stories she appeared in. Same for Sonny and Jason.

RC presents a villain, they have a scheme, we have heroes, and then the plots unfold from point A to B to C until the story is over. It's a story, maybe not one anybody on this particular site likes, but a story nevertheless. The Luke thing is more of a story than anything Laura Wright or Steve Burton starred in under Guza. I think Guza's idea of a story for Carly was she was pregnant and read magazines.

Which GH is that? We have clowns, retcons, plots, plots and more plots!

Which GH is that? We have clowns, retcons, plots, plots and more plots!

+1

RC doesn't do stories, he does plot points/plot devices

Which GH is that? We have clowns, retcons, plots, plots and more plots!

+2

There are no points A,B, and C. I have never seen a writer completely skip the middle of a story (aka the actual development) the way Ron does.

Which GH is that? We have clowns, retcons, plots, plots and more plots!

+3

In the long haul, there is no character development that emerges from his 'stories' either. It's all lather, wash, and repeat.

Which GH is that? We have clowns, retcons, plots, plots and more plots!

What's wrong with plot? I will take all plot all the time vs years of Sonny or Alexis or Liz just sitting around in no energy, dull two person scenes discussing the current state of their coupledom. No talent Rick Hearst, No talent Ted King, constant discussing of Sonny by everyone in town, Carly and Courtney, years of Sam whispering and crying....give be rubber masks any day of that crap.

Which GH is that? We have clowns, retcons, plots, plots and more plots!

+ 4

This trainwreck doesn't even feel like GH, at least with Guza, even though he was dark and had a hard on for all things Sonny/Jason/Carly, you felt like you were seeing GH. He kept most of the GH writers from previous regimes unlike Carlivati who fired everyone and brought in the worst of his OLTL crew

What's wrong with plot? I will take all plot all the time vs years of Sonny or Alexis or Liz just sitting around in no energy, dull two person scenes discussing the current state of their coupledom. No talent Rick Hearst, No talent Ted King, constant discussing of Sonny by everyone in town, Carly and Courtney, years of Sam whispering and crying....give be rubber masks any day of that crap.

I dunno....at some point you have to tell a story. No?

Which GH is that? We have clowns, retcons, plots, plots and more plots!

+5

I don't think that Ric Hearst or Ted King are untalented, their characters were written by hack Guza, who created characters to go against Sonny that were one-dimensional, just there to hate Sonny. Neither actor could help the crap writing. All they did was do their job.

I don't think that Ric Hearst or Ted King are untalented, their characters were written by hack Guza, who created characters to go against Sonny that were one-dimensional, just there to hate Sonny. Neither actor could help the crap writing. All they did was do their job.

Thats bogus. Billy Warlock, Constance Towers, John Ingle...many actors came on GH and actually possessed even the slightest bit of charisma and TV presence, and consequently they shined. Nobody is more one dimensional than Helena, and yet she is fun. The fact that Rick Hearst and Ted King were as riveting as corpses in the morgue is entirely the byproduct of their own screen presence.

I dunno....at some point you have to tell a story. No?

Guza proved you don't. He didn't tell one in 15 years.

Edited December 5, 201410 yr by quartermainefan

Really?? Looks like he did

Guza proved you don't. He didn't tell one in 15 years.

I HATE Guza but I am sorry. He told stories. Stories I didn't like [and were one-sided] but he told him. At least his stories had a beginning, middle, and end. Ron's stories begin just fine, lose steam and meaning in the middle, and the ending is sh*t. No one takes away anything. No one tries to improve themselves. There's no growth. I haven't seen ONE character grow on this show since RC took over. Not in the slightest.

Guza proved you don't. He didn't tell one in 15 years.

If that's what you need to believe.

Thats bogus. Billy Warlock, Constance Towers, John Ingle...many actors came on GH and actually possessed even the slightest bit of charisma and TV presence, and consequently they shined. Nobody is more one dimensional than Helena, and yet she is fun. The fact that Rick Hearst and Ted King were as riveting as corpses in the morgue is entirely the byproduct of their own screen presence.

She is a cartoon…a joke. All of RC characters are…thats why she is fun but not in a good way.

Rick Hearst > Billy Warlock…..hell even Ted King is better than Billy….

Guza drove me away from the show. But he and his team had several plotted stories. Some of them were awful, some were events tucked between 2 or 3 months of dialogue heavy scenes, but they did tell stories. Off the top of my head...

Tony Jones spent two years going crazy.

Sonny/Brenda/Jax

The Liz rape through jackson's leaving the show the first time around was one entire story.

Robin and Patrick's relationship.

Sonny and Carly ending up together, and michael.

The entire fight for Michael.

Dillon and Georgie's relationship and Tracy being against it.

The dreadful Emily rapeby they Nikolas lookalike.

The Balkan.

That's just off the top of my head. Guza had lots of meandering and wasted time, and I just hated what GH became under his work, but the guy did write stories.

Edited December 5, 201410 yr by titan1978