See, and the thing about that is because the one Cosby work that I truly stan hard for (The Bill Cosby Show) came way before his image as America's Dad, I find it easy to compartmentalize as well. Every time I go to the bookstore, I'm tempted to pick up the DVD set because it was such a great low-key comedy for its time, sorta this mix of Julia and Room 222, and I love that, but now it's just...ugh. It pisses me off that a person could do so much good while being so bad.

Not that this has anything at all to do with what you're talking about, AMS, but I wouldn't have gone near any DVD's of TCS even BEFORE all this happened for the simple reason that, after S1, the writing was so bad (IMO). But now...? Now, it just goes deeper than that. Now, it's like, "this girl who played Vanessa's fast-talking friend -- did he rape her, too, or was she not old enough? And dear God, if he ever tried anything with Clarice Taylor, I really don't wanna know!"

Edited July 18, 201510 yr by Khan

I honestly cannot watch "The Cosby Show" anymore, not even some of my favorite episodes. It will probably never be on television in reruns again and that limits new generations from discovering it. While the internet rules, television still has it's power and young people do still discover old shows through reruns.

I faithfully watched Cosby Show reruns when I was in like the 5th grade (and even then it was only the first three or four seasons), but it was always too damn bougie for us bayouside Louisianians. It's just not my thing, and I always felt like Sanford and Son (and to a lesser extent, Good Times) better represented the people I grew up around. I definitely won't miss the reruns.

BounceTV was airing Fat Albert pretty regularly. I wonder if they still are.

TBH, "Roseanne" and "One Day at a Time" represented me and my family better than ANY shows centered around African-Americans. Not that I didn't enjoy watching "Sanford," "Good Times," TCS and the rest. As I've said, I looked up to Cos and his beliefs in family, in education, in mutual tolerance and respect, and so forth. But even though I am AA and I knew as a child these shows were specifically for and about "my people," I still felt as if I was looking in on something I otherwise wouldn't have been privy to.

Edited July 18, 201510 yr by Khan

I honestly cannot watch "The Cosby Show" anymore, not even some of my favorite episodes. It will probably never be on television in reruns again and that limits new generations from discovering it. While the internet rules, television still has it's power and young people do still discover old shows through reruns.

I feel the same way...and about 7th Heaven now thanks to the Stephen Collins news about him being a pedophile. I just can't view the show the same way as I once did

I used to sneak a peek at 7th Heaven every now and then because I love me a good family drama, but I never watched it regularly. When they banished it last year, I honestly forgot it even existed. I see that UP has quietly brought it back.

I watched TCS reruns very briefly when I was a kid, and while I was never a huge fan of it, I've always LOVED the opening credits, especially the one from seasons 6 and 7 (the one with the "best elevator music" quote). But I can't bring myself to watch any of them of YouTube now (I'm the kind of person who watches TV openings on YT because it's fun).

And talk about making history look very different, considering just how essential TCS was/is to 80's TV, not to mention the fact that it was THE show that made NBC a successful network again after coming apart so badly in the late 70's/early 80's.

Edited July 18, 201510 yr by MissLlanviewPA

Good point.

If and/or when future generations will be able to look past the retroactively added innuendos of "Dr. Cliff Huxtable" as a sex fiend, I think they will be able to appreciate, as we all do, the fact that a Black family could be on TV and NOT be living in the projects or trading in putdowns of their Caucasian counterparts or of each other.

People will still watch it and like it. 99 percent of the public is not a bunch of ham fisted PC zealots like the people on this board.

Edited July 19, 201510 yr by alphanguy74

The NY Times has the deposition.

In the deposition, which Mr. Cosby has for years managed to keep private but was obtained by The New York Times, the entertainer comes across as alternately annoyed, mocking, occasionally charming and sometimes boastful, often blithely describing sexual encounters in graphic detail.

He spoke with casual disregard about ending a relationship with another model so he could pursue other women. “Moving on,” was his phrase.

He suggested he was skilled in picking up the nonverbal cues that signal a woman’s consent.

“I think I’m a pretty decent reader of people and their emotions in these romantic sexual things, whatever you want to call them,” he said.

Through it all, his manner was largely one of casual indifference.

At one point in the first day of questioning, Dolores M. Troiani, the lawyer for the plaintiff in the case, Andrea Constand, a young woman who worked at Temple University as a basketball manager, seemed struck by Mr. Cosby’s jocular manner.

“I think you’re making light of a very serious situation,” she said, to which Mr. Cosby replied: “That may very well be.”

[...]

During the call, Mr. Cosby told the deposing lawyers, he wanted Ms. Constand to tell her mother “about the orgasm” so that she would realize it was consensual.

“Tell your mother about the orgasm. Tell your mother how we talked,” he said he remembered thinking.

[...]

While Mr. Cosby insisted the only drug he had given Ms. Constand was Benadryl, he was open about his access in the 1970s to quaaludes, a sedative also popular as a party drug.

He said he obtained seven prescriptions for them over two to three years from a doctor in Los Angeles, ostensibly for a sore back but in reality to give to women.

He admitted to giving young women quaaludes at that time “the same as a person would say have a drink,” he said, but not without their knowledge.

Though he portrayed the drug-taking and sex as consensual, Mr. Cosby — when asked whether Ms. Serignese was in a position to consent to sexual intercourse after he gave her quaaludes in 1976 — said: “I don’t know.”

[...]

Asked by Ms. Constand’s lawyer about how he felt when Ms. Constand cried during her own deposition, Mr. Cosby was unsparing: “I think Andrea is a liar and I know she’s a liar because I was there. I was there.”

And he could be dispassionate in recalling former relationships. With a woman named Beth Ferrier, a model he met in the 1980s, he recalled inquiring after her career and her father, who had died of cancer.

“Did you ask her those questions because you wanted to have sexual contact with her?” Ms. Troiani asked.

“Yes,” Mr. Cosby responded.

More linked.

Edited July 19, 201510 yr by Vee

You can tell he kind of liked the chance to brag about his whoring for once.

That's probably the most honesty we'll ever get from him.

Edited July 19, 201510 yr by marceline

He is a disgusting creature. Reading that made me feel sick.

Cosby is now demanding sanctions against one of his victims and claiming that he was smeared. SMDH.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/07/22/bill-cosby-asks-court-to-punish-accuser-for-smear/21212396/

At this point, I think Cosby's lawyers are just using him for a paycheck.

Cosby: "File a complaint!"

Lawyer: "Sure, sir. Just as soon as I get done buying this Tesla online."

At this point, I think Cosby's lawyers are just using him for a paycheck.

Cosby: "File a complaint!"

Lawyer: "Sure, sir. Just as soon as I get done buying this Tesla online."

It's what I'd do! Actually, I wouldn't. I'm far from religious but I'd be too afraid to go to Hell for representing Cosby at this point.

It's what I'd do! Actually, I wouldn't. I'm far from religious but I'd be too afraid to go to Hell for representing Cosby at this point.

The problem is that this is all coming from Cosby's inability to accept reality. I doubt the lawyers are suggesting this. Even if they believe in the man, few lawyers want to deal with such a clusterfuck of a case. Nobody becomes an entertainment lawyer because they want to defend rapists. Cosby needs attorneys who specialize in this kind of case, not ones whose days are spent hammering out endorsement contracts. Plus, most of his lawyers have probably been with him for years, even decades.