Sony is not going to blame Altman/Passanante for the ratings slide. Sony is responsible for the departures of MS and BM because they didn't want to meet their demands. MM was a separate situation. The ratings slide was built into their decision. They will give this writing team through the end of the year for sure. That doesn't mean they aren't having other writers pitch stories. Soap producers often pay for long story documents from other writers who never get credit.

Maybe CBS will hire David Kriezman for y and r.

Maybe CBS will hire David Kriezman for y and r.

Would you support that choice, Jonny? A nation awaits your answer.

Maybe Alden crafted the "return of Adam story" with Trevor St. John in the role...could be good soap in a few months.

AS and JS leaving should not hurt Days IF TPTB focus on building other characters and the show itself starting NOW. Ejami drove many fans away, and some are waiting for the opportunity to come back. Hopefully Days gives them a reason to return and stick around. Contrary to popular belief 2 years ago, GH survived and even "flourished" w/o Burton. Stafford left YR and tons of fans did the Bill Cosby dance. That said, The Daniel Jonas Hour will NOT work! Bringing Eileen back and focusing on her for 1 hour for 3 months won't work. Hopefully, the show will remember this is an ensemble cast and write for all of the characters, and bring in some damn black people! It's ridiculous that this show has no black folks on this show (and please don't say Abe).

JFP needs a new writing team, and if she can't step back and let that new team write the show, she can go as well. I will always believe GH is a better fit for her.

Yep they danced right on over to GH. lol

Yep they danced right on over to GH. lol

Did they really? I'm not seeing much of an impact at all...lol

Yeah I have with the ratings. GH has had the most consistent soap ratings I have seen in years and Michelle has been very popular.

Seriously when you hire Jean Passanante as your HW...what do you expect ratings wise?? This woman has been poison to all the soaps she has touched but yet they keep hiring her sorry ass.

I have to agree that GH is definitely the most consistent soap right now as far as ratings. B&B is still my favorite and I am so happy its beating Y&R in 18-34 :-)

Did they really? I'm not seeing much of an impact at all...lol

I really believe that part of GH's ratings impact is because of MS. Plus I know me and a few others (and I'm sure CBS was too) were holding out hope that MS would return after a short while but when she signed with GH and they signed GT to take over that could have had some impact. I am curious to see GT in the role but MS's diehard fans may not be.

Why is nobody talking about B&B almost matching Y&R on Thursday? I wonder how that happened!

Why is nobody talking about B&B almost matching Y&R on Thursday? I wonder how that happened!

B&B is just head and shoulders above Y&R right now in every department-- what else is there really to say?

I admit, I haven't been a regular viewer of the show in about 7 or 8 years now, so others are more equipped to discuss the specifics but from what I've seen lately, B&B makes Y&R look amateurish in just about everything these days. Even the exterior shots for B&B look superior.

Perhaps because B&B is a 30 min serial vs. Y&R's 60 minutes (including commercials) so maybe that's why B&B gets left out of the conversations?

I'm wondering whether Y&R and B&B have the same budget for their respective shows because Y&R definitely has the look of a show with a budget stretched way too thin. Or Y&R is simply spending its budget unwisely.

Edited July 9, 201412 yr by DramatistDreamer

It's always interesting to look at B&B and see what is left of the old Bell formula - business stories, psychologically damaged people driven by the same obsessions into repeating patterns for years. The show is not necessarily my thing but I understand why it is compulsively watchable. It had me hooked for a month or two not long ago.

Edited July 9, 201412 yr by Vee

Why is nobody talking about B&B almost matching Y&R on Thursday? I wonder how that happened!

How were they close? Y&R had over 900K more viewers

I don't know what it is, but even with the scenery-chewers being hounded out of the show (La Staff -- who I still kind of miss sometimes -- Killuh Milluh and the 'alleged' molester), I still cannot bring myself to watch Y&R. It's been this way for over two months. I love certain characters on the show and love that others have gained more prominence (Hillary, Devon, Sharon slowly being redeemed), but there is something totally generic and lacklustre about the show which I just cannot stomach.

Also, too many recasts. Billy should just have been let go to come back at a later date. Three Billys later and is there even a point to having yet another generic blonde dude on the show? To prop up the ever-underachieving Amelia Heinle?

Recast a newbie -- um, ok. Hey southern Kelly. You have completely lost your mystery and intrigue!

Recast Phyllis even though MS is strongly associated with the role? Uh huh. Gina T should just come in and play Victoria at this point. Let Phyllis go until MS and JFP make amends or something.

They really should have co-EPs and better writing. JFP for the firing, and Shaughnessy or Scott back for the Y&R vision, feel and sweep. Kay Alden to consult. It's the only way.

Edited July 10, 201412 yr by Cat