You guys see this?

https://medium.com/empire-enterprises/nyc-power-couple-to-watch-andre-and-rhonda-lyon-2b7902002fcb

I think that is a cute and smart way to keep fans interacted--a fictional online magazine that provides more of a backstory.

Daytime as a whole needs to pay attention to Empire. It is so refreshing to see characters with ambitions and jobs and business savvy.

I can just see Carlivati's trifling mind furiously searching for a way to squeeze in an Empire reference even though it's on another network.

I do wonder what it's like for the people who have been killing daytime soaps because of all the reasons we know so well (lack of diversity, shame about the genre, outdated ideas about human sexuality, etc...) to see an "out and proud" soap become a breakout success by embracing all those things.

I was on a website & it said that Jamal had a cd out before & it was a flop. Maybe that's why he wasn't in a rush to do music. That's why he should have been working inside the company for his father, Writing and arranging music for other artist, then start featuring in some of these artists songs.

Lucious won't have to do a thing. It hasn't been shown that Michael has a job. He's a kept man it seems. This is a natural arc that needs no outside influence. One of the first dating tips my father gave me was "it's just as easy to love a rich man as it is a poor man. It's just as easy to love a man with a job as it is one without." I find it a truth universally acknowledged. Michael should start questioning whether a starving artist is worth the same effort and time as an heir to a fortune.

I see your point but I'm just stating in terrms of storyline and potential routes that would be an interesting one to explore. Lucius has been shown to be coldhearted and ruthless. I think it would be interesting and within character for him to find a way to split them up. Or hell Andre could do it.

You guys see this?

https://medium.com/empire-enterprises/nyc-power-couple-to-watch-andre-and-rhonda-lyon-2b7902002fcb

On the same site they got Jamal back story.

https://medium.com/empire-enterprises/jamal-lyon-reinvented-36bdbc926daf

I can just see Carlivati's trifling mind furiously searching for a way to squeeze in an Empire reference even though it's on another network.

I do wonder what it's like for the people who have been killing daytime soaps because of all the reasons we know so well (lack of diversity, shame about the genre, outdated ideas about human sexuality, etc...) to see an "out and proud" soap become a breakout success by embracing all those things.

Its coming! Some have RTd some of his quotes from the show. moRon watches Empire weekly, so he will be stealing some ideas really soon and trying to work it into his scripts. An inevitable embarrassing mess, no doubt!

Its coming! Some have RTd some of his quotes from the show. moRon watches Empire weekly, so he will be stealing some ideas really soon and trying to work it into his scripts. An inevitable embarrassing mess, no doubt!

How funny. I just thought about this a couple of nights ago when I was falling asleep. I absolutely expect it to happen.

I'd love it if Empire could manage to include a few daytime stars in cameos. I'd enjoy seeing Debbie Morgan or Victoria Rowell play an old friend or rival of Cookie's. That's on my season 2 wishlist.

B, we gon have to Hunger Games for Jussie as there can only be one.

I'd love it if Empire could manage to include a few daytime stars in cameos. I'd enjoy seeing Debbie Morgan or Victoria Rowell play an old friend or rival of Cookie's. That's on my season 2 wishlist.

Ooooooo play someone's mother! I like this idea.

I'd love it if Empire could manage to include a few daytime stars in cameos. I'd enjoy seeing Debbie Morgan or Victoria Rowell play an old friend or rival of Cookie's. That's on my season 2 wishlist.

I'll admit, there have been a few scenes where Cookie reminded me of VR. The near fight with Kitty in the elevator where she adjusted her hat for example. I would love to see some soap stars pop up down the line. I think it could happen.

GH and Empire? They could easily bring back Brook, Lois and Dillon to try to do a take on that

Jamal breaks my heart every damn episode. He thinks his father hates him. Not even a little. I actually think he is his father's favorite. I liked how the writers gave us insight into why he is the way he is with Jamal. He is afraid. he's scared of what the world will do to him. It's "life or death in these streets".

I like the way that TH is portraying Lucious's feelings for Jamal. I definitely think that Lucious has love and affection for Jamal. Granted it's mixed with some disapproval but it's definitely not hate. I am looking forward to see what happens between Lucious and Jamal, especially now that Jamal is going to try and make it on his own.

I could see Jamal trying to avoid Lucious, for a while, (unless he wants to confront him about something) and if that happens, I think it will be interesting to watch. I think that if Jamal doesn't really want anything to do with Lucious, that is going to really bother Lucious. I could see him keeping tabs on Jamal, and still finding reasons to get in Jamal's face and try and talk with him.

Jamal/Lucious is one of my favorite relationships dynamics on this show along with Cookie/Lucious.

B, we gon have to Hunger Games for Jussie as there can only be one.

Well darling, you're going to lose. We're married and already planning to adopt children. I've already started looking our new home, furnishings, etc. while he works hard on Empire.

But you'd have a better shot at his older brother, Jojo. Or his younger brothers, Jocqui or Jake. But no to Jussie. That's MY property. You're one of my nearest and dearest friends but I'd hate to have to cut you over my bae.

Edited January 23, 201510 yr by Nothin'ButAttitude

I like the way that TH is portraying Lucious's feelings for Jamal. I definitely think that Lucious has love and affection for Jamal. Granted it's mixed with some disapproval but it's definitely not hate. I am looking forward to see what happens between Lucious and Jamal, especially now that Jamal is going to try and make it on his own.

Yeah you can tell Lucious loves his son but at the same time Jamal is something that Lu spent his whole life hearing was wrong/bad/disgusting. Howard does a great job showing his cognitive dissonance over that.

You guys see this?

https://medium.com/empire-enterprises/nyc-power-couple-to-watch-andre-and-rhonda-lyon-2b7902002fcb

This is amazing!