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Empire: Discussion Thread

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I was at the beauty shop yesterday and of course we were all talking about Empire. Listening to everybody else's ideas made me wonder what's on everybody's season 2 wish list?

It will surprise no one that I want more episodes and for the show to slow down a bit. Somebody here has mentioned the desire for a second "rival" family. I agree with that. I thought that's what we were getting with the introduction of Berretti and I think it could still happen. Judd Nelson and Terrance Howard play very nicely off each other as friends turned enemies. I'd like the show to play that up and deepen it.

I'd like the show to stop killing folks off for short-term plot. We lost both Bunky and Vernon this season and a lot of potential stories died with them. The show is about a family yet in one short season they killed off two members of it. I find it unfortunate that we lost Bunky, Vernon and Malcom. I guess the show is doubling down on on the lion analogy by getting rid of any male competition for Lucious.

And lastly, I need Hakeem to stop wearing those earrings. Cookie can pull off big earrings. He can't.

Stop leaving out key plot points. Theres alot we were told that we didnt see and characters reacted to major revelations off screen. I really wanted to see Cookie' face when she learned of Anika and Hakeem for example. Or how she and Porsha plotted to turn the tables on her

Embrace the celebrity culture. These people are stars but it doesnt really come across as much on the show. There should be more glitz and glam and the public should be all over them

Give Porsha a new hairstyle. I cant beleive she went 10 or so episodes with that same ugly look

More Teyana. I liked her and thought more could have been done but its like they lost interest out of her quickly

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Looking back, the finale was a disappointment. It was way too rushed and busy. And the Jamal propping was out of control.

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I've never watched Power but I give them mad credit for leveraging Empire in even a small way.

"Empires are built on Power."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pi-KPkopII

I just watched it on OnDemand this past weekend and the shows are nothing alike. 50 Cent swore they stole his concept but the only similarity like most of these comparisons are that there are black leads.
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I do think it's funny that when Empire premiered, there were homophobes on Twitter who said that "50 ain't got nothin to worry bout" bc no one wants "that gay sh!t on Empire." LOL!

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This show needs to earn the title of soap opera.

It already is a soap opera, flaws and all, and whatever changes they may make no one is interested in your fanfic version of it so please stop talking about it.

And sorry, I liked Vernon and would have kept him around, but he was a third-tier player at best and not some major loss either.

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I've never watched Power but I give them mad credit for leveraging Empire in even a small way.

"Empires are built on Power."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pi-KPkopII

Now THIS is a soap opera! I've seen this show. It understands storyline continuity and real dramatic aspects very well. Why 50 cent even bothered accusing Empire writers/producers of stealing anything from him, I'll never know.

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Thank you for commenting...Can you let it go, please...Those of us that enjoy the show get it. There are some flaws. It's not perfect. We got that five posts ago.

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Even if another family isn't added, they need to actually write for the family that they do have. Dropped/inconsistent drama is not writing. Oh, and there's plenty that's broken, but of course, that's my opinion.

The show has issues. I never said it didn't. But needing a rival family isn't one. And that is what I was referring to when I said it wasn't broken.

I've never watched Power but I give them mad credit for leveraging Empire in even a small way.

"Empires are built on Power."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pi-KPkopII

That is shade. The creator of Power (50 cent) feels as if though Empire is a copy cat show. LOL.

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Now THIS is a soap opera! I've seen this show. It understands storyline continuity and real dramatic aspects very well. Why 50 cent even bothered accusing Empire writers/producers of stealing anything from him, I'll never know.

And for all of that, very few are raving about Power. I also watched some of it but I didn't love it like i do Empire. Go figure!

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Thank you for commenting...Can you let it go, please...Those of us that enjoy the show get it. There are some flaws. It's not perfect. We got that five posts ago.

HAHA! If you're referring to me, guess what? I intend to keep pointing out these flaws until the writers get it.

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Count me in with the group who doesn't need a rival family. There is way more than enough story to tell with just the Lyons and their associates. They have different levels of rivalries with each other, but that's also balanced with levels of love and support. The show's heart and soul lies in that one conflict, IMO. A rival family wouldn't work because then all of the Lyons have a common enemy, and while that might be good (it was good for about 5 minutes two episodes ago), it takes away a lot of what we like about the show -- the Lyons pitted against each other while still rooting for each other.

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I intend to keep pointing out these flaws until the writers get it.

This might be the wrong forum for that goal. You may want to try the bushes outside their homes.

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Count me in with the group who doesn't need a rival family. There is way more than enough story to tell with just the Lyons and their associates. They have different levels of rivalries with each other, but that's also balanced with levels of love and support. The show's heart and soul lies in that one conflict, IMO. A rival family wouldn't work because then all of the Lyons have a common enemy, and while that might be good (it was good for about 5 minutes two episodes ago), it takes away a lot of what we like about the show -- the Lyons pitted against each other while still rooting for each other.

This is fine. We can do without a rival family then. I agree that there are and WERE plenty of opportunities with just the Lyons and their associates. They seemed to introduce some interesting aspects in this first season, but inexplicably did nothing with it for some reason. I'll keep my eye on whether or not they do something more substantive with this family in season 2. They've laid some groundwork. Let's see if they build on it or drop it altogether.

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God Jamal is just awful. I got so close to FFing every scene of his tonight. We get it, you're gay. I can't even count how many times my partner and I rolled our eyes everytime he did something to prove he's a real man. It was just absolute overkill.

Rhonda and Andre not reporting the Vernon attack as self defense was plot driven garbage. They're supposed to be the two smart ones.

I'm gonna need J Hudson and her screaming to not return next season.

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