EON beginning to circle the drain. Losing more and more affiliates couldn't have helped. Also, seeing the healthy distance between RH and LOV's ratings makes me understand why the former's fans have been so ticked about the upcoming timeslot switch for 35+ years.

8 hours ago, VanessaReardon said:

 

The last two lists of ratings, are they for sure from August/September 1984? Because "Santa Barbara" is conspicuously absent, having premiered that July...

1 hour ago, Wendy said:

 

The last two lists of ratings, are they for sure from August/September 1984? Because "Santa Barbara" is conspicuously absent, having premiered that July...

As has been repeatedly stated, the months pencilled in are the issue dates.

The ratings shown are a few months behind.

SB will probably appear in the October issue as happened with Loving the year before.

I'm guessing a 3.7 - 4.0 for Santa Barbara.

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Does anyone know what was the highest rating Loving ever achieved?

 

I was sort of disappointed when I read Agnes Nixon's autobiography. She talks loads about AMC and OLTL but not one word about Loving. It would have been interesting to get her take on why that show never took off like her other creations and the behind the scenes that may have played a part.

7 hours ago, Franko said:

EON beginning to circle the drain. Losing more and more affiliates couldn't have helped. Also, seeing the healthy distance between RH and LOV's ratings makes me understand why the former's fans have been so ticked about the upcoming timeslot switch for 35+ years.

Of all the shows that could be rebooted, I think EON would be an interesting candidate because of the nature of the show's stories...a dark, moody drama

So far Loving has hit a 4.3, which is a little lower than RH was doing at 12.30, so when Loving moves into that slot it will probably be within that range. Maybe hit a 4.5. Will be interesting to see.

I wonder if Lov or RH did anything story wise to attract attention the week of the switch?

Did SFT see an opportunity to bump up their numbers and grab some viewers who might have switched when RH was moved?

3 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

So far Loving has hit a 4.3, which is a little lower than RH was doing at 12.30, so when Loving moves into that slot it will probably be within that range. Maybe hit a 4.5. Will be interesting to see.

I wonder if Lov or RH did anything story wise to attract attention the week of the switch?

Did SFT see an opportunity to bump up their numbers and grab some viewers who might have switched when RH was moved?

And it seemed that SFT's ratings on NBC did pick up a bit for a year or so showing some promise, but it just didn't pan out eventually. Poor Ryan's Hope...they were thrown under the bus for sure.

Wasn't "Loving" ABC owned versus "Ryan's Hope", which I think was perhaps partially owned by the Labines? (I think I recall ABC did buy the latter later?) If so, I can see, even if I don't agree with it, why ABC had a preference for "Loving".

1 hour ago, Wendy said:

Wasn't "Loving" ABC owned versus "Ryan's Hope", which I think was perhaps partially owned by the Labines? (I think I recall ABC did buy the latter later?) If so, I can see, even if I don't agree with it, why ABC had a preference for "Loving".

 

Vice-versa. Agnes Nixon had some kind of partnership deal with ABC - hence the "(c) Dramatic Creations, Inc." at the end of Loving's credit crawl, instead of "the American Broadcasting Company" you'd see on the other 4 soaps.

4 hours ago, pdm1974 said:

I was sort of disappointed when I read Agnes Nixon's autobiography. She talks loads about AMC and OLTL but not one word about Loving.

I was disappointed that she didn't talk about Rachel & Ada & there being parallel to Erica & Mona.

2 hours ago, YurSoakinginit said:

 

Vice-versa. Agnes Nixon had some kind of partnership deal with ABC - hence the "(c) Dramatic Creations, Inc." at the end of Loving's credit crawl, instead of "the American Broadcasting Company" you'd see on the other 4 soaps.

 

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7 hours ago, Donna B said:

I was disappointed that she didn't talk about Rachel & Ada & there being parallel to Erica & Mona.

 

And on Loving there was Kate/Ava...there was definite parallels to all three...the long suffering single mother and the scheming social climbing daughter.

These ratings always show just how far behind in the game NBC was and it makes me sad. As AW was my show and someone that enjoyed Texas as a kid and became a fan of SFT during it's NBC run, it's clear NBC didn't have the audience. I wonder how a show like Generations would have done if it had been on CBS after Y&R, like B&B ended up. I think it's run would have been far more significant with a CBS audience behind it. 

 

1 hour ago, pdm1974 said:

And on Loving there was Kate/Ava...there was definite parallels to all three...the long suffering single mother and the scheming social climbing daughter.

 

Bill Bell also used that same element with Liz/Jill and Beth/Brooke.

5 hours ago, pdm1974 said:

And on Loving there was Kate/Ava...there was definite parallels to all three...the long suffering single mother and the scheming social climbing daughter.

I always like to think early Carla and Sadie are the missing link in this pattern.

4 hours ago, Melroser said:

These ratings always show just how far behind in the game NBC was and it makes me sad. As AW was my show

Yeah, AW was my show, too, and there were times it got short shrift.

What's funny is that in the mid/late 80's, NBC primetime was becoming dominant again and CBS's primetime schedule was in serious trouble. It was the reverse in daytime.