Can this b!tch go away?

Gawd !!

My dad laughed at her getting person of the year.

Taylor is reaching a level where she might be overexposed if she continues at this pace. 2023 was a banner year for her, but she’ll need to slow down and give the general audience a chance to actually miss her at some point. 

6 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Taylor is reaching a level where she might be overexposed if she continues at this pace. 2023 was a banner year for her, but she’ll need to slow down and give the general audience a chance to actually miss her at some point. 

I still think this PR relationship with Travis Kelce was a mistake for her in the long run, although at least she has stopped going to his games. 

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I still think this PR relationship with Travis Kelce was a mistake for her in the long run, although at least she has stopped going to his games. 

Something about him seems so disingenuous. He’s wanted to be a bigger media star for years and Taylor was his ticket to that. 

2 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I still think this PR relationship with Travis Kelce was a mistake for her in the long run, although at least she has stopped going to his games. 

She still goes to his games.

20 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

Something about him seems so disingenuous. He’s wanted to be a bigger media star for years and Taylor was his ticket to that. 

His comments about cheerleaders and dating fat females did him no favors. Has he seen his ugly fat mom? Just sayin....

Calling slow people retarded.

Why is Taylor with someone like him?

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

Something about him seems so disingenuous. He’s wanted to be a bigger media star for years and Taylor was his ticket to that. 

He seems desperate every time I see him. The whole feels very cynical, especially the fans who are trashing her latest ex Joe Alwyn and praising him - you know he will be in the same spot in a year or two. 

3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I still think this PR relationship with Travis Kelce was a mistake for her in the long run

 

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

Something about him seems so disingenuous. He’s wanted to be a bigger media star for years and Taylor was his ticket to that. 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels the same way you two do.  And I'm not even a fan of Taylor's.

10 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Taylor is reaching a level where she might be overexposed if she continues at this pace. 2023 was a banner year for her, but she’ll need to slow down and give the general audience a chance to actually miss her at some point. 

I agree.  It's all getting to be a bit much.  Also, at the risk of over-generalizing, the more she's in the spotlight, the more her fans evolve from being just fans to being cult members.  It's unsettling.

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1 minute ago, Khan said:

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels the same way you two do.  And I'm not even a fan of Taylor's.

I agree.  It's all getting to be a bit much.  Also, at the risk of overgeneralizing, I think her fans are beginning to border on being cult members.  At times, watching or reading about them is unsettling for me.

What????!!!!!???  I'm shocked!😂

I'm just waiting for someone who has receipts to expose her dark unknown secrets she's hiding.

3 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

What????!!!!!???  I'm shocked!😂

IKR?  LOL!!

The thing is, I still can't see what's so special about her.  Maybe it's my age, or my gender, or my general nature that distrusts most people in life, but I think her vocals are even less polished than Madonna's, and her lyrics are still so banal and childish after all these years, too.  (I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Taylor Swift is exactly what you get when you get a quasi-talented singer/songwriter whose knowledge of literature or life stops at junior high school).  And while she is pretty, she's not what I call stunning, so what is it?

Truthfully, if white America hadn't felt the need to prop her up after that black boogeyman, Kanye West, had the audacity to go on stage and say Beyonce was robbed of that stupid award, Taylor Swift would not be where she is at this moment.  The only pleasure I get from all this is seeing her turn against her more racist fans by supporting liberal and progressive causes (even if the more cynical side of me thinks that's just for show).

13 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

I'm just waiting for someone who has receipts to expose her dark unknown secrets she's hiding.

They're out there.  It's just a matter of time.

"It’s hard to see history when you’re in the middle of it, harder still to distinguish Swift’s impact on the culture from her celebrity, which emits so much light it can be blinding." - From the Time Magazine article. 

 

We have not seen this kind of year in decades, and probably never will again, and that is a big reason why Time Magazine chose her.  In 20 years, she's going to have accomplished a lot more and broken more records.  

 

And to call her a bitch?  What for?  I've followed her career and life for a long time, and very closely.  She is far from a bitch.  Has she done things maybe she shouldn't have done?  Sure.  Everyone has.  But inherently, she's good person.   If you don't like her music, you don't have to be nasty about it. 

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

His comments about cheerleaders and dating fat females did him no favors. Has he seen his ugly fat mom? Just sayin....

Calling slow people retarded.

Why is Taylor with someone like him?

It's been my experience that women - and white women, in particular - are simply more attracted to men who are douchebags.  They SAY they appreciate a man who is sensitive and compassionate about others, but very, very few actually mean that.  [political]This is why Trump's numbers among white women never surprise me.[/political]

10 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

Taylor is reaching a level where she might be overexposed if she continues at this pace. 2023 was a banner year for her, but she’ll need to slow down and give the general audience a chance to actually miss her at some point. 

September/October was crazy with her colliding with the NFL.  She's not going to get that amount of scrutiny for a while.....unless the Chiefs make it to the Superbowl and she travels to the game after her concert in Japan.  There might be a resurgence of her being in the spotlight for a day or two.   In 2024, she's going on tour internationally and will be out of the US for the majority of the year.  It won't be until the next new, non rerecord, album where the spotlight will be at a very high level. 

 

The romance with Kelce has been "approved" by the general audience and the fanbase, so that's not going to have a negative impact on her career. 

 

1 hour ago, Soapsuds said:

His comments about cheerleaders and dating fat females did him no favors. Has he seen his ugly fat mom? Just sayin....

 

He was in his early 20's (obviously they were dumb comments, but people can mature and learn).  You're in, what, your 40's/50's?  And you're calling someone ugly and fat, while disapproving what he said?   Okay.  No self-awareness there at all, man. 

Delete

Its not even worth it for an overhyped singer who isn't that good.

Edited December 8, 20232 yr by Soapsuds

That's great if you don't like her music.  I don't expect everyone to.  People have different taste.  But to call her a bitch?  Come on man.   And of course I'm going to respond to you calling Travis' mother fat and ugly.  What the hell is that?  What has she done to deserve that?   You don't like Taylor's music?  Fine.  But there's no need to tear her down by calling her a name.  You don't like Travis?  Fine.  But you don't need to tear his mother down by calling her names. 

24 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Delete

Its not even worth it for an overhyped singer who isn't that good.

Once again, you've greatly contributed to this thread.  Looking forward to your same comments in a year or two.