Tyler Perry's 'Haves and Have Nots' on OWN

[P.J.]

^^^oy vey....the lessons I could learn from this show....

1. never order a hooker on your birthday.

2. never let your black maid or latina chef forget who's the boss.

3. never have kids because they're just gonna end up a) dumber than dirt addicts or c) a closeted gay.

4. always keep sanitizer handy---you never know where a naked rich boy has been.

[EricMontreal22]

LOL Seriously, what lesson were we meant to take away with us after episode four?

[All My Shadows]

What are you trying to say to me?

[P.J.]

5. If you're gonna mortgage Momma's house so your hooker sister can get her law degree, make sure she does a volume business.

[EricMontreal22]

Ha was that explained in the last episode? It seems so obvious, but I completely missed that. Maybe Perry's dialogue is just too far above me...

[P.J.]

Not as much explained as inferred. I have no idea exactly how her brother thinks she's paying the mortgage. I think she may have told him her "boyfriend" wanted to pay for everything and get her a car, but I can't swear. My attention tends to wander.

There should be another lesson about showin' a stiffy re: choking during sex while trying to make a blackmail payment....but it's a little awkward.

Edited June 19, 2013 by P.J.

[Faulkner]

The writing's better tonight. The dialogue in the scene with Candace and David had a nice snap and crackle to it. "You better take that stick out of your ass. Unless you're into that sort of thing..."

[MoTheGreat]

Wyatt or gay dude are going to find out Hannah and Candace are related. I hope Wyatt, it's time for him to get busy.

Why did Candace did the Wonder Woman move?

Edited June 19, 2013 by MoTheGreat

[Faulkner]

Missed this piece, but Racialicious goes in on both Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey.

Tyler Perry Hates Black Women: 5 Thoughts on The Haves and Have Nots

http://www.racialicious.com/2013/06/03/tyler-perry-hates-black-women-5-thoughts-on-the-haves-and-have-nots/

[NothinButAttitude]

My Mom said the other thing. She bust out laughing when Candace did her twirl. Too hilarious.

I thought tonight's episode was so GOOD. I love the interaction between Hannah & Mrs. Cryer. I just hate that eventually their growing bond is going to sever when Candace's secret comes out.

It's getting messy on this show but in a good way. I cannot wait for all to come out.

[frequentsoapfan]

As bad as this show is it's still better than Hit the Floor. The summer program aimed at black people isn't exactly well written.

[ReddFoxx]

I didn't know what David's angle was, but putting Candace in Veronica's cross-hairs is an interesting twist.

Candace and David's scene was intense, both of them trying to one up each other. When she threw herself to the floor, I wasn't expecting that at all.

Once again, Crystal Fox and Tika Sumpter really deliver, they are off the chain good.

[Gray Bunny]

Oh this show... LOL

It got annoying when both Candace and later Benny took FOREVER to break the good news to Benny and Hannah, respectively. If I had a 50K surprise, I would've busted into the room and said, "I got the money! You're not gonna be out on the street!" Instead, Candace probed Benny to see if he still believed in her, and Benny waited for his mom to moan on about nonsense before finally telling her she needn't worry anymore.

It's like, I get that they're trying to establish some relationship dynamics but get to the point! Haha

Question: I must admit I don't know all the specifics of breast cancer. Where is bootleg Sally Spectra bleeding from? I say vagina, hubby says breasts but that can NOT be correct.

Edited June 19, 2013 by Gray Bunny

[P.J.]

Yeah, that was a marked improvement. No wonder that all the dumb rich kids were completely absent from the eppy. Crystal Fox is really the reason to watch this. TS is obviously levels above the under 30 set, but Candace is written so viciously without remorse it's hard to find any reason to even remotely care about her or her relationships with her family.

[ChitHappens]

And that is because the Cryers are tremendously lacking! We should be rooting for Candace, but as it stands, she looks like a bully and predator. I've said it before, the Cryers need work. Major work. Both kids are screwed up royally, and if Whyatt does not begin to show once ounce of struggle with addiction, I'm going to chew off my fingers one by one! Mom and Dad have no rooting value at all, and they are not worthy of the status that family has been given in this town. If they didn't tell us how rich and powerful they are, who'd know? The mother is as hard as a brick, and well, what can you say about papa when Candace just sexually assaults him in his office?!

If they don't fix The Cryers, there is no hope for this show. Imagine every single family member of the Carringtons or Ewings having no rooting value? How long would those shows have lasted?

There is not one bad ass in the bunch, and that's crazy!

Edited June 19, 2013 by ChitHappens