In the case of MS, he just said that he loved & missed working with SC and that SHICK was endgame and she got her panties in a bunch. MS has been vocal that she wants PHICK to be endgame when IMO that's insane. Phyllis needs to either end up with Jack, who is the ONLY man that makes her bearable, single, in jail, or dead.

Also, I don't know how important this is to other viewers, but Bill Bell laid the groundwork for Sharon and Nick to be endgame. We all know that BB intended them to be the next generation Victor & Nikki, and IMO to go against the creator's creation (regardless if he's passed) would be upmost disrespectful. It's alright for Nick to stray but at the end of the day, the powers that be (and whoever else) need to realize that Sharon Collins, the girl from the wrong side of the track is Nick's true love and who he should end with.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. I believe Bill Bell would be appalled at how many of the characters/couples have been destroyed by allowing a select favorite few actors/actresses to basically dictate story.

Michelle has made no bones about the fact that she prefers working with Joshua and believes Nick/Phyllis are the be all, end all of the show. IMO Sharon has been just as guilty in the Sharon/Adam pairing, which again IMO, is far far worse than Nick/Phyllis. Joshua is stuck between these two actresses...damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He makes Shick fans mad one week and Phick fans mad the next. He cannot win. I love him and I support him, but he's never gonna make everybody happy and sometimes I wish he'd stop trying.

And to whoever (I think it was junior) said they preferred Chris Engen as Adam....AMEN!! I had so much sympathy for Adam back then. Chris played Adam perfectly. But MM makes is absolutely unrootable for me. He's smarmy, a smart ass, and an egotiscal jackass as Muhney portrays him and I find myself mystified as to why anyone supports this worthless character.

I believe Bill Bell would be appalled at how many of the characters/couples have been destroyed by allowing a select favorite few actors/actresses to basically dictate story.

...much to the detriment of this show. I hope that era is over because that's when story lines and show history began to degrade, imo.

IMO Sharon has been just as guilty in the Sharon/Adam pairing, which again IMO, is far far worse than Nick/Phyllis.

I remember Sharon didn't say anything until Josh started with prop Phylis and Nick comments. & that's when she started to pimp Adam and Sharon.

What weird about Lame fans, they act he was the most up standing guy to Lily since she met him. He treated her with the most up respect. He never did anything to warrant Lily wandering eyes.

It is called selective amnesia. LOL! However, he pro-Tyler fans have been bringing up Cane's ugly past. Overall, I have been pleasantly surprised by the number of vocal pro-Tyler and Tyler/Lily fans there are on SOC. Much to their dismay, the Cane/Lily fans have been getting quite a nice beat down. It is very entertaining.

I remember Sharon didn't say anything until Josh started with prop Phylis and Nick comments. & that's when she started to pimp Adam and Sharon.

Exactly. I've always remembered JM & MS pimping PHICK since they got married. Sharon wasn't in even Adam's orbit then. She was with Brad then Jack. Again, I never said that SC does not pimp her pairings but she doesn't do it as much as other co-stars.

It is called selective amnesia. LOL! However, he pro-Tyler fans have been bringing up Cane's ugly past. Overall, I have been pleasantly surprised by the number of vocal pro-Tyler and Tyler/Lily fans there are on SOC. Much to their dismay, the Cane/Lily fans have been getting quite a nice beat down. It is very entertaining.

Soaps.com is like the new SOC full of hate on basically everything. They had a thread up for days that was racist.

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Soaps.com still exists? If so, I'm shocked b/c that website was poorly ran (i.e. the content). And SOC. . . I haven't posted on there in months. Only time I go there is to brush up my character history (which I wish that Dan Kroll would find some knowledgeable soaps *coughs* Khan, CarlD2, Saynotoursoap, etc. *coughs* so they can help him add some other soaps onto the site: Santa Barbara, The Doctors, Love of Life, Edge of Night, Search for Tomorrow, and fix Another World profiles on the site).

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Soaps.com still exists? If so, I'm shocked b/c that website was poorly ran (i.e. the content). And SOC. . . I haven't posted on there in months. Only time I go there is to brush up my character history (which I wish that Dan Kroll would find some knowledgeable soaps *coughs* Khan, CarlD2, Saynotoursoap, etc. *coughs* so they can help him add some other soaps onto the site: Santa Barbara, The Doctors, Love of Life, Edge of Night, Search for Tomorrow, and fix Another World profiles on the site).

Still exists and yep still poorly ran. I went to their board the other day and there were several NuAbby and NuKyle hate threads by the same people who kept posting over and over again and a several threads about how horrible Lily is acting and how much they hate Tyler.

It is called selective amnesia. LOL! However, he pro-Tyler fans have been bringing up Cane's ugly past. Overall, I have been pleasantly surprised by the number of vocal pro-Tyler and Tyler/Lily fans there are on SOC. Much to their dismay, the Cane/Lily fans have been getting quite a nice beat down. It is very entertaining.

You know I'm over there right, I got to be careful what I type, so I won't get ban.

Still exists and yep still poorly ran. I went to their board the other day and there were several NuAbby and NuKyle hate threads by the same people who kept posting over and over again and a several threads about how horrible Lily is acting and how much they hate Tyler.

Tsk. Tsk. And why would there be NuKyle & Abby hate threads when the two haven't even been on a full month yet? See that's why I only do my posting on here. We have our moments on here but Errol and Toups run a tight ship over here and I love that they do.

The lunatic soap fans give the rational soap fans a bad name, and they wonder why we always get the short end of the stick in everything.

Tsk. Tsk. And why would there be NuKyle & Abby hate threads when the two haven't even been on a full month yet? See that's why I only do my posting on here. We have our moments on here but Errol and Toups run a tight ship over here and I love that they do.

The lunatic soap fans give the rational soap fans a bad name, and they wonder why we always get the short end of the stick in everything.

It was insane the amount of hate being spewed when both have only been on one day each. A month ago there was alot of overreaction when they read someone that the actress that plays Summer's friend was coming to Y&R. They started a rumor that she was NewEden and the usually newbies taking over the show panic started and they seemed to think it was irrational that the actress would be playing a small role until lo and behold she showed up onscreen playing one.

Soaps.com is like the new SOC full of hate on basically everything. They had a thread up for days that was racist.

Was it the Jackie Robinson/Cane/Lily thread?

You know I'm over there right, I got to be careful what I type, so I won't get ban.

I have posted there for years. I thought that they suspended people. I did not know that you could get banned.

I have posted there for years. I thought that they suspended people. I did not know that you could get banned.

I know many people who got banned for not following SOC groupthink.

I have posted there for years. I thought that they suspended people. I did not know that you could get banned.

The mods were banning people left and right when MM started posting over there. So many people got warnings if they were too negative about Adam.