Someone brought up an interesting point on another board. If the rights revert back to ABC they may not be able to use PP's storylines. They used Golden Girls as an example. NBC cancelled the show. CBS bought the rights and did the spin-off Golden Palace. CBS cancelled that show and the rights went back to NBC. NBC wanted to do a retrospective of the show including the spin-off but CBS wouldn't allow them to use the episodes they produced.

I wonder if the same thing could happen here. ABC gets the rights back but wouldn't be able to use any of PP's stuff. So they would either have to pick up from the characters left off on GH or ignore that and pick up from the ABC finale. AMC wouldn't have that dilemma.

ABC still owns the shows PP was just leasing them. So I dont see why ABC couldnt use PP stories

The thing is most GH fans don't want any Amc or oltl on their show. OLTL on GH flops what makes GH pop is GH fan faves garnering great ratings. GH is getting great buzz and ratings. I doubt abc does anything with them. The only I could see is maybe make them summer telenovelas.

Someone brought up an interesting point on another board. If the rights revert back to ABC they may not be able to use PP's storylines. They used Golden Girls as an example. NBC cancelled the show. CBS bought the rights and did the spin-off Golden Palace. CBS cancelled that show and the rights went back to NBC. NBC wanted to do a retrospective of the show including the spin-off but CBS wouldn't allow them to use the episodes they produced.

I wonder if the same thing could happen here. ABC gets the rights back but wouldn't be able to use any of PP's stuff. So they would either have to pick up from the characters left off on GH or ignore that and pick up from the ABC finale. AMC wouldn't have that dilemma.

See, I wondered about that - if ABC did get the rights back and by some strange miracle wanted to produce the show again (doubt it would ever happen), would they consider what happened on PP's version of the show canon and start from there, or would they start from their own ending from 2011?

The thing is most GH fans don't want any Amc or oltl on their show. OLTL on GH flops what makes GH pop is GH fan faves garnering great ratings. GH is getting great buzz and ratings. I doubt abc does anything with them. The only I could see is maybe make them summer telenovelas.

You.do.realize GH these past years have been OLTL on GH

Very sad. So much potential in this incarnation.

I personally don't like Ron/Frank's storytelling. I do, if just purely out of spite, think they might bring on a few AMCers.

Realistically, I only see Debbie Morgan, Darnell Williams and Vincent I. as possibilities, and I'm sorry for their fans because only the soap gods know how they will be destroyed.

As far as the shows happening on ABC again, while I would never say never, it is extremely doubtful. If it was even a possibility, it would only make sense financial sense if they picked up with the studio and sets already purchased by PP - to rebuild would be too expensive and to make the shows work at all without completely alienating the audience, they would realistically need to be East Coast based. AMC might be able to work West Coast, but not OLTL.

If the shows don't get picked up by anyone(and I doubt they do, but I still hold out on my Netflix fantasy<g>), I just want the characters to be left alone. I HOPE Ron and Frank don't get any ideas!

Even if one or both shows were picked up by another production company, I wonder how many of the actors would be willing to go for round three?

Even if one or both shows were picked up by another production company, I wonder how many of the actors would be willing to go for round three?

I assume it would depend largely on how many other jobs they can book. If it's AMC or OLTL 3.0 vs. waiting tables or being unemployed, I suspect many would take their chances with a paying acting gig.

The shows weren't unsuccessful on Hulu and Itunes, just not successful enough. Same with OWN.

If ABC were truly looking at AMC/OLTL, either as a hybrid hour show or two half-hour shows as a replacement for Katie, then they would have just made a deal with PP, IMO.

PP had already done most of the hard work with hiring cast, writers, crew and staff, finding a reasonable priced production studio and re-habbing it, building the sets, etc.

This is the biggest reason I don't see the shows ever being on ABC again. If they aren't willing to make a deal, and shoulder some of the costs when pieces are in place, it doesn't seem from common sense business practices, that they would start all over again.

The shows weren't unsuccessful on Hulu and Itunes, just not successful enough. Same with OWN.

If ABC were truly looking at AMC/OLTL, either as a hybrid hour show or two half-hour shows as a replacement for Katie, then they would have just made a deal with PP, IMO.

PP had already done most of the hard work with hiring cast, writers, crew and staff, finding a reasonable priced production studio and re-habbing it, building the sets, etc.

This is the biggest reason I don't see the shows ever being on ABC again. If they aren't willing to make a deal, and shoulder some of the costs when pieces are in place, it doesn't seem from common sense business practices, that they would start all over again.

IMO that's on PP first the 5days a week stuff, then no it's gonna be 4 days a week, no wait we were just kidding, it's gonna be twice a week geesh, it got ridiculous after awhile

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I agree. Not sure why Michael was being bashed in the first place when all he did was announce that there would be an announcement, and why this is the bigger issue is totally beyond me. Michael was not wrong, and I truly believe PP backed out of the announcement. Had there not been one bungle after the other, the cancellations would have been easy for PP to announce. Projects fail all the time, but when you have one misstep after the other, admitting something didn't work is much harder to do. And that is all this is, something that didn't work. It happens.

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   @debbimorgan it's not on you. You just had faith in what you were told. PP needs to come clean, explain money and communication issues.

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@ClaudineGandolf Well not sure any of us will ever get the full explanation. But I must say I think PP really did give a valiant effort...

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   @debbimorgan it's not on you. You just had faith in what you were told. PP needs to come clean, explain money and communication issues.

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@ClaudineGandolf Well not sure any of us will ever get the full explanation. But I must say I think PP really did give a valiant effort...

Thanks John.

I personally don't like Ron/Frank's storytelling. I do, if just purely out of spite, think they might bring on a few AMCers.

Realistically, I only see Debbie Morgan, Darnell Williams and Vincent I. as possibilities, and I'm sorry for their fans because only the soap gods know how they will be destroyed.

As far as the shows happening on ABC again, while I would never say never, it is extremely doubtful. If it was even a possibility, it would only make sense financial sense if they picked up with the studio and sets already purchased by PP - to rebuild would be too expensive and to make the shows work at all without completely alienating the audience, they would realistically need to be East Coast based. AMC might be able to work West Coast, but not OLTL.

Ron and Frank don't write for black actors. I think we'd probably get Billy Clyde, or maybe JR. I can see a story where JR rapes Liz but she likes it.

As for Michael Logan, he wanted attention and he wanted to try to take a scalp for his beloved "Cartini." Then he dropped the whole thing. Any "journalist" with any integrity would not have run with that and then backed away.