And Sheryl Lee Ralph? She was just bitchin' about how the Black characters had no storylines.

Edited September 29, 201213 yr by Khan

They told her she was the new Dru. She didn't know until after the fact that they'd also said this to Shennel Edmonds and Marla Gibbs.

I'm betting Sharon torches the Newman ranch...

Seriously, is it possible that "Sharon" is actually Patty, and that the real Sharon is locked up somewheres?

Seriously, is it possible that "Sharon" is actually Patty, and that the real Sharon is locked up somewheres?

Nah. Sharon was already crazy when Patty was still in town.

The whole idea of Braeden destroying sets on a whim is amusing more than anything else. I'm just done with these gossip games. I'd rather read a Chris Engen gossip column at this point.

If Braeden is destroying sets then someone direct him toward GC Athletic Club or Crimson Lights.

Yes Please....Then have someone rebuild Gina's....

I mentioned the fire earlier this week in another thread, try again Branco, this has been out for a few days (before Braeden started Tweeting)..

Not 100% sure, as it's up in the air at the moment, I think Nikki and Victor could be getting a new house.

Apparently, the fire takes place the week of October 15th, so pretty soon...

I have dreamed of a Newman Ranch fire for quite some time. Just for Adam to die while trying to save his family and Sharon. Then nobody mentions the character again.

I have dreamed of a Newman Ranch fire for quite some time. Just for Adam to die while trying to save his family and Sharon. Then nobody mentions the character again.

Too Late.... I think Muhney has already wormed his way into becoming a FOJ.

Too Late.... I think Muhney has already wormed his way into becoming a FOJ.

Shhhhhh....Does he know that's a thing yet? If MM finds out there's such a thing as a "FOJ"..........God help us all!!!

I have dreamed of a Newman Ranch fire for quite some time. Just for Adam to die while trying to save his family and Sharon. Then nobody mentions the character again.

I've never been a fan of this character either, and his second incarnation (portrayed by Muhney), I've found particularly distasteful. People keep using the word 'grey' to refer to his character. That character hasn't been grey since Muhney took over the role. He's been a felon, there's no grey about that. A psycho, Milton Berle wanna be, baby stealing and switching, eye jabbing, felon. I would love to see anyone with any sense of logic explain to me how someone who has committed the type of extreme actions (although, I realize that extreme has become the new normal on Y&R during Hogan Sheffer, uh, I mean MAB's stewardship) that Adam has taken. Going by that logic then Sheila Carter should be a 'grey' character!

Characters like Jack Abbott, Jill Abbott, Nina (in the 80s), Dru at times, were all grey characters. Heck, I could even make a case for Victor being a grey character. I refuse to put Adam in that category, especially as Muhney has portrayed him. It is as ridiculous as Phyllis playing the part of heroine.

Okay, I am finished with my rant now.

Maybe the new HW will reset some of these characters.

I think MM already must know of the FOJ because he is really attempting to ingratiate himself on Twitter now. Perhaps he's aware that Y&R doesn't truly need Adam.

Muhney was miscast from the start, and always looked much OLDER than Morrow and Heinle, when he was supposed to be younger.

And it's not like he ever plays against the writing, he plays the character as unsympathetically as the writing. They need to write this character out for a few years, and if they bring him back, he needs to be re-tooled severely with a much more capable actor.

I doubt that will happen though...

Edited September 29, 201213 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

or just bring back Chris Engen

I've never been a fan of this character either, and his second incarnation (portrayed by Muhney), I've found particularly distasteful. People keep using the word 'grey' to refer to his character. That character hasn't been grey since Muhney took over the role. He's been a felon, there's no grey about that. A psycho, Milton Berle wanna be, baby stealing and switching, eye jabbing, felon. I would love to see anyone with any sense of logic explain to me how someone who has committed the type of extreme actions (although, I realize that extreme has become the new normal on Y&R during Hogan Sheffer, uh, I mean MAB's stewardship) that Adam has taken. Going by that logic then Sheila Carter should be a 'grey' character!

Characters like Jack Abbott, Jill Abbott, Nina (in the 80s), Dru at times, were all grey characters. Heck, I could even make a case for Victor being a grey character. I refuse to put Adam in that category, especially as Muhney has portrayed him. It is as ridiculous as Phyllis playing the part of heroine.

Okay, I am finished with my rant now.

"Grey" has become a codeword for "this character makes no sense."

There's nothing "grey" about Adam. He just goes wherever the plot goes. How did the character end up marking time with the world's noblest drug rapist, making a business with Kevin (someone who would likely be seen as repulsive by someone with Adam's farm and business background) and the gnat Chloe?

The only reason this character has a following is because MM is a good promoter and some fans think he's hot.