I was inspired to do this by the UO thread for TV shows at TWOP.

Like here, there is a separate one at TWOP for soaps as well, but I had no idea if there was one on this board for the rest of TV (game shows, sitcoms, reality shows, news, etc.), so I thought I'd start one here. Granted, TWOP is a site completely dedicated to all types of television, so I don't know if picking out UOs here would be as easy, but I think it's worth a shot.

Everything's on the table. Past or present, channels or shows of every genre (except the daytime soaps, obviously).

The UO thread on soaps has only a little bit on primetime soaps, so I guess you can include them here, too. Your call.

Edited April 15, 201213 yr by MissLlanviewPA

I was a kid when Full House originally ran and even we the target audience made fun of it in school. Now when I watch shows like Leave it to Beaver I wonder if the kids back then clowned the sitcoms of their era too, instead of assuming that's how people really lived back then.

That's how I felt about the first few seasons - I wish they hadn't started taking themselves so seriously.

Perhaps, I need to step outside my love of it to watch it again because I've never gotten the impression that the show was taking itself too seriously. This isn't the first time that I've heard this critique of SATC so I may just be missing something here.

Another SATC UO: Perhaps it's because she was my favorite of the foursome, but I thought that Miranda underwent the most character growth throughout the series and loved her ending. I call this a UO because many viewers complained that she'd gone from being a powerful lawyer to a domesticated homebody, which I disagree with.

I thought the Miranda arc was a good one, overall - I thought it was true to her character and she and Steve were a good couple.

For me the show changed when it became less about Carrie being quirky and screwed up in a fun way and more about how damaged she was and how this was despair (this started around the time of the arc with boring Aiden).

I didn't hate Full House because of the Olsen twins, I hated it because it was one of the most corny, saccharine, preachy, unrealistic, dumbed down shows of all time. I hated that every episode would be some lame ass lesson where they'd break into a heart to heart with that terrible "serious" music that would make the studio audience go "awww." That show represented everything that was wrong the family-friendly sitcom -- it was too sugary sweet and pleasant to the point where it was just obnoxious.

I don't think any Full House fan would dispute this. Full House is way over the top with that corny music that would play towards the end of the episode when the "lesson" was taught. But Full House with its overly cheesy overly-PC atmosphere really defines the 90s well and they just don't make TV like that anymore.

The "Stephanie is bullied by the girls who smoke in the bathroom" episode was robbed of the emmy that year.

My unpopular opinion: I love the Simpsons episode "The Principal and the Pauper" (where Skinner is revealed to be an imposter, often considered the "worst episode ever.") I think it's a brilliant commentary on how resistant people are to even the most minor change.

Considering I've seen strong criticisms of both of these shows on this board, I'd consider this unpopular. I believe that Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy are two of the best shows of the last ten years and certainly this decade's Dallas/Dynasty or Melrose Place/90210. Just my opinion.

Considering I've seen strong criticisms of both of these shows on this board, I'd consider this unpopular. I believe that Desperate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy are two of the best shows of the last ten years and certainly this decade's Dallas/Dynasty or Melrose Place/90210. Just my opinion.

I agree, they are two of my favorites.

And I think it's pathetic that Desperate Housewives is all we had to continue that legacy in the past decade. Never watched a second of Grey's.

IMO the only show of the past decade that showed promise to carry on the primetime soap legacy was The OC, and it fizzled out SO quickly after *such* a promising start

I don't think any Full House fan would dispute this. Full House is way over the top with that corny music that would play towards the end of the episode when the "lesson" was taught. But Full House with its overly cheesy overly-PC atmosphere really defines the 90s well and they just don't make TV like that anymore.

The "Stephanie is bullied by the girls who smoke in the bathroom" episode was robbed of the emmy that year.

I was always surprised that ABC paired the show with Roseanne for a lot of its end-run on Tuesday nights, talk about a weird trip with two very different takes on the family-oriented sitcom.

Edited January 13, 201312 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

It is weird. People think it spent its entire run on Friday nights, but it moved to Tuesday during its fourth season, airing with shows like Roseanne, Coach, The Wonder Years, and eventually Grace Under Fire. Even more bizarrely, NYPD Blue finished the lineup during its last two seasons.

Fast Friends (the one where Stephanie is pressured to smoke) is actually one of my favorites. I have to confess that I actually

got Jodie Sweetin's autobiography for Christmas one year *hides* .

Possible Coach UO:

I liked Stuart and Kelly (until he cheated on her, of course, and ditched her), and enjoy their episodes almost as much as the ones after they left.

Edited January 13, 201312 yr by MissLlanviewPA

Oops double post.

Edited January 13, 201312 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

As I mentioned Roseanne, Laurie Metcalf = the best supporting actress ever in a 90s sitcom (well technically late 80s, I suppose). 

 

If only for this alone:

 

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Oh yes, defintely. Did that get her the second Emmy?

Roseanne won hers for this episode.

Laurie's first Emmy was for the episode where Jackie slept with Arnie. After she won, she was shown at the end of the Dark Ages

episode polishing off her Emmy before Roseanne and John Goodman start chasing her. It's always cut in syndication, but I think the

DVDs have it (and it's on YouTube, too).

ETA: There were two Roseanne marathons on yesterday--one on WE, the other on TV Land. Not that I'm complaining.

Edited January 13, 201312 yr by MissLlanviewPA

I think Laurie's second Emmy came from the episodes where Fisher beat Jackie up.

At the time, Roseanne's Emmy win for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series was considered one of the most controversial ones in Hollywood, as she was so anti-establishment, she didn't even show up to accept it (claiming she was sick).

I think Roseanne (the show) hit its absolute peak in quality in season 5 - it was just a superb mixture of the show's grounded socially relevant content and the somewhat outrageous nature that consumed the latter seasons. That season just holds up so well 20 years later.