Members quartermainefan Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 Was Gotham something to brag about? I found it lower quality than home movies. The sound, the blink and you'll miss it duration of the episodes, the whole production was amateurish and inferior to what comes out of NYU film school. As a matter of fact, maybe she should contact some students to help her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 From the moment PP insinuated they wanted to produce AMC and OLTL 2.0 in much the same way that the network versions had been produced -- with several episodes per week, similar cast sizes and comparable production values -- the enterprise as a whole was doomed not to succeed. If I've said it once, I've said it a hundred times: if you want to launch a successful series on the web, then you have to "think small" the way people like Irna Phillips and Roy Winsor did. Actors, even good ones, want to work often for the "exposure" alone (in other words, they didn't get into the business in order to make lavish salaries), but you can't be all Doug Marland and hire, like, 42 of them at one time to appear in three-minute episodes. (Yes, Martha, I'm talking to you.) You can't produce a network-quality soap opera for the Internet, where revenues and financial backing remain hard things to pin down. Hell, even the networks are struggling to produce network-quality soaps! Lord, how I wish PP had just tried to develop a brand-new soap.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 I would have no problem with that. I was prepared to pay for OLTL and AMC, If I can pay for HBO every month and never turn it on I can pay the same amount of money for 10 episodes a week of a soap. I was curious about Hulu Gold, but never understood what pay Hulu gave you free Hulu didn't, and then as soon as pay Hulu was born the networks announced they were restricting online access anyway. But if someone put every surviving episode of AMC online, I would subscribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 Sophia Petrillo: "I smell a pony ride." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 I think that's something that could happen with all the soaps, ATWT, GL, Search for Tomorrow, Santa Barbara. I have hope it might happen someday. I don't know enough to understand the obstacles, but I have to believe they will overcome someday. Seems like easy money for the people who own the rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 I thought it was OK for a first effort. Not very good, but I liked seeing some of the actors again. I just meant that at least she did manage to get something made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 Yeah, I have a question: "Will Martha just shut the [!@#$%^&*] up and go back to making her Thanksgiving dinner?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 well the ABC Deal with PP called for the shows to be 60 mins 5 days a week 52 weeks a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 I'll tell you what Hulu Plus gives you for $8 a month - almost the entire Criterion Collection. That was more than enough for me to sign up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 So many insurance-scheme-gone-wrong stories on "Unsolved Mysteries" started out this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Chamberlain Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 My thoughts exactly. Stuff that turkey Martha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 Oh well. I waited, and now I'm seeing. Oh well. For the record, I don't think this was some huge conspiracy. I think it's pretty simple. PP thought they could do something, but they couldn't. ABC probably figured all along that PP wouldn't be successful, because they knew what it would take to make this work, but I don't think they actively wanted it to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 Frankly, I'm done with nostalgia. All it does is make me mad again. God knows I loved these shows, but I think I'm at a point where I'm ready never to see them again even in reruns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 It depends on the show, for me. I tend to just enjoy what's in the moment and try not to think about what happens later. Sometimes that's easy, sometimes it's not. It depends on the story or characters. Some Ryan's Hope stuff I can watch again and again. Others I barely cared about the first time. I'm most interested in all the stuff I've never really gotten to see before, or only seen bits of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TeamEric Posted November 24, 2011 Members Share Posted November 24, 2011 I'm not buying the conspiracy theories either. I'm a huge X-Files fan and still don't buy the magic bullet killed JFK theory... YET I see no earthly reason to believe a media giant like Disney cooked up a HOAX with PP to silence a tiny group of soap fans. We're like gnats to be stomped on without another look by giant Disney. I feel PP was on the right track. The future of daytime soaps should be online. But I watch MSNBC and heard over and over the economy continues so sluggish b/c investors/banks are hoarding cash versus investing in new ventures or expanding business. PP never stood a chance in this climate. I am grateful to the actors, crew, and PP who tried to keep our soaps alive. I place the blame squarely on Disney's shoulders as they killed ABC Daytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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