I never said that.

I never said that either.

I only suggested that performances from actors on soaps were more polished and more consistent when they had more time to block and rehearse with directors, who were there to separate the strong(er) acting choices from the weak. I said it; you disagreed. No big deal (hence the shrug).

Did I say "Khan, YOU said this and that?"

No?

Okay, then.

The less they let DV act, the more I appreciate her fineness.

Me, too. I just hope she doesn't join the PP version.

These Jangie scenes need to be longer.

I was thinking the same thing. They could've cut out the Greenlee/Ryan/Kendall scenes and had more Jesse/Angie.

Loving today's epi. Debbie Morgan just OWNED that scene!

This is a really powerful scene with Jangie. Debbi Morgan is remarkable.

LMAO. How did she lose the Emmy to the horse? I swear, there is no justice in this world

Yep.

Darnell/Debbi & MEK/Cady are knocking it out of the park today.

Debbi damn well better submit these scenes for next year's Emmys and win because of them!

Ugh. I hate to say this. But, I am liking Ryan today. Actually. I've been liking him alot here lately. He's not as much of a jerk as he used to be.

EDIT: WHOA BABY! MY MAN IS PISSED! Rage Thaddeus James! RAGE!

I haven't minded Ryan the last few months.

I was glad to see Tad so upset because I was rolling my eyes when Dixie let David examine her. I wish she would just tell Tad or JR about the B bracelet so this story can get moving. Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but based on this latest flashback, it looked to me like the other woman (most likely Babe) was dead.

This really was a great episode. Very well done. So glad the show is continuing somewhere I just hope we don't lose too many actors when it does.

ITA that it was a great episode! I second your wish that we don't lose too many actors.

Maybe LB is finally writing him as the audience has seen him for years. A sexist disgusting controlling sanctimonious douchebag. Actually thats my payoff because now everyone is seeing that suffocating ass for who he has always been.

Well, that is the heart of his character and I don't mind it as long as he doesn't somehow get turned into the hero of this whole Orpheus storyline.

I never said that either.

I only suggested that performances from actors on soaps were more polished and more consistent when they had more time to block and rehearse with directors, who were there to separate the strong(er) acting choices from the weak. I said it; you disagreed. No big deal (hence the shrug).

I think that was actually a shot at me. Whatever.

I don't defend actors to other people because I hate it when people insist on telling me how good an actor is. You know what I'm talking about. Those constant pimp posts some people do day after day talking about how amazing and talented someone it and if another person dares to suggest they don't see it, these fanboys and fangirls immediately jump all over you trying to convince you. "Well she wouldn't be frontburner if she wasn't good!" (We've all seen what a fallacy that is.) "He must be good because he has an Emmy!" (Again, we can all think of examples that disprove that hypothesis.) "She gets a lot of fan mail!" (So do prisoners.) I get tired of people who feel the need to make everybody see things their way.

I love Darnell. I know his limitations and accept them. I like a lot of the mugging that he does because he's usually playing the exasperated police chief in a farce which sadly is what I think a lot of this is. I don't think DW ever "phones it in." He's seems to me to be more of a "let's get this over with so we can all get to dinner" type. When I think of phoning it in I think of what we saw from Michael Nouri. That guy did everything but whip out his iPhone and start playing Angry Birds. BTW, did I miss the announcement that he left the show? When did he call it quits?

ETA: Now that I've had a chance to watch, please add my name to the "Debbi Morgan tore it up" list. As for Darnell being weaker in those scene, those scenes belonged to Debbi and he knew it. He just stood back and let her work. Somebody like Mathison would've tried to out emote her.

After watching Angie go through that it's unfathomable to me that anybody thinks J&A would be fine in two weeks. In no universe - not even a Project Orpheus one - would that make sense. Angie needs to serve Jesse with papers and tell him she's moving to Genoa City. Screw the happy ending BS.

Edited August 31, 201114 yr by marceline

"She gets a lot of fan mail!" (So do prisoners.)

Angie needs to serve Jesse with papers and tell him she's moving to Genoa City. Screw the happy ending BS.

If Angie were to leave him, Jesse would fall apart.

I can't wait to watch.

I think that was actually a shot at me. Whatever.

Check the ego, honey. If it was a shot at you, I would've mentioned or quoted you as well. I don't do the subliminal thing like other people. Actually, I had no idea who made the comment I was referring to. I skim posts when threads get to be multiple pages and just make a mental note of something I want to comment on later. My main concern was speaking my piece on the phoning it in vs. bad material conversation regardless of which poster said what. God, everyone's so damn defensive.

ETA: Now that I've had a chance to watch, please add my name to the "Debbi Morgan tore it up" list. As for Darnell being weaker in those scene, those scenes belonged to Debbi and he knew it. He just stood back and let her work. Somebody like Mathison would've tried to out emote her.

Mathison who? You mean Cameron Mathison? This guy -> <- would've attempted to out emote someone? You're being extraordinarily generous.

After watching Angie go through that it's unfathomable to me that anybody thinks J&A would be fine in two weeks. In no universe - not even a Project Orpheus one - would that make sense. Angie needs to serve Jesse with papers and tell him she's moving to Genoa City. Screw the happy ending BS.

I agree with 17 broadcast episodes left. However, with the crummy way this show's being written, I wouldn't be surprised if Jesse and Angie do get a happy ending. I can see it taking a page from the Babe is Love script with Angie realizing Jesse switched the babies out of his deep and undying love for Angie.

I hate that the shitty state of this show has yall fighting at a time when we should be bound together, celebrating and rejoicing the legacy this show leaves behind

Edited August 31, 201114 yr by All My Shadows

God, everyone's so damn defensive.

When you dismiss others' opinions as "garbage," as if your opinions aren't, what do you expect? If you disagree, then disagree, but don't make disparaging remarks like that and not expect others to take it personally.

I still enjoy reading your comments, R Sinclair. You're one of the many here who approaches soaps intelligently. In that particular instance, however, I felt you had crossed a line.

Edited August 31, 201114 yr by Khan

I hate that the shitty state of this show has yall fighting at a time when we should be bound together, celebrating and rejoicing the legacy this show leaves behind.

Blame AMC's writers.

I hate that the shitty state of this show has yall fighting at a time when we should be bound together, celebrating and rejoicing the legacy this show leaves behind

Oh sweetie, that was never going to happen. To paraphrase the Passover seder, "Why should this day be different than all other days?"

When you dismiss others' opinions as "garbage," as if your opinions aren't, what do you expect? If you disagree, then disagree, but don't make disparaging remarks like that and not expect others to take it personally.

I still enjoy reading your comments, R Sinclair. You're one of the many here who approaches soaps intelligently. In that particular instance, however, I felt you had crossed a line.

OK, then. Chastisement of my use of the word "garbage" has been duly noted and given its appropriate amount of consideration. Moving right along...

Oh sweetie, that was never going to happen. To paraphrase the Passover seder, "Why should this day be different than all other days?"

I know, I know. I just had hopes and dreams of a harmonious AMC fanbase, but I should know better.

I know, I know. I just had hopes and dreams of a harmonious AMC fanbase, but I should know better.

Are you even still watching, or are you waiting for the final week. Haven't seen you post much in the threads, and I know you were probably one of the first to call bullshit on the Orpheus story.

Are you even still watching, or are you waiting for the final week. Haven't seen you post much in the threads, and I know you were probably one of the first to call bullshit on the Orpheus story.

Nope, I stopped a few weeks ago. To be honest, if I didn't have class at AMC-time every day, I'd probably watch (with anger), but I don't even feel motivated to watch online, so it is what it is, I guess. It doesn't seem like I'm missing anything.

Nope, I stopped a few weeks ago. To be honest, if I didn't have class at AMC-time every day, I'd probably watch (with anger), but I don't even feel motivated to watch online, so it is what it is, I guess. It doesn't seem like I'm missing anything.

Yeah, I only watch when I am home (Mon-Wed)..... I'll record the final week.....but yeah... the boldest part is the saddest part of this whole debacle. We SHOULD be missing loads!

I can't even enjoy Erica these days. That's what LB has done to this show. The sooner it goes, the better. I'm already emotionally disconnected...it's just a matter of getting to 9/23 now.