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OLTL Discussion for the week of August 15th

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This story has gotten really stupid. They should've just had it as Victor Jr. Knowingly taking over Todd's life so that he could get a piece of the inheritance. He could've still been adamant that he was Todd because he knew they had the same DNA. Bringing Irene back was really unnecessary for all of this. And to think I was loving this story like two weeks ago. I'm just ready for the TSJ part of this story to end. I can't take it.

To think I got jumped on for saying RC copped out by not making TSJ's character a knowing imposter instead of this stupid twin crap LOL. THat would at least be soapy, this not so much

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Tina: Mom and I just have each other. There's no one else, you know? laugh.png DEAD

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Y'all are too funny, tryin'a figure out the details. Irene is a crazy bitch, interchangin' her twins like they are a reversible peacoat. She obviously fucked with Tina's mind too. Or maybe Victor Jr. was a hella ugly baby, and Tina thought he was a pitbull. I don't know, and I don't really care. I'm lovin this story.

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I don't think the twin idea is a copout. I just think the explanation is way out there and there are a lot of holes in it but I would guess the overall audience is probably eating it up.

Y'all are too funny, tryin'a figure out the details. Irene is a crazy bitch, interchangin' her twins like they are a reversible peacoat. She obviously fucked with Tina's mind too. Or maybe Victor Jr. was a hella ugly baby, and Tina thought he was a pitbull. I don't know, and I don't really care. I'm lovin this story.

Its probably the most compelling story on a soap since the baby switch on Days a few years back. Sadly its a story they could have played out I think for a long time but its been rushed likely due to the original cancallation and TSJ's departure.

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I don't think the twin idea is a copout. I just think the explanation is way out there and there are a lot of holes in it but I would guess the overall audience is probably eating it up.

I knew they were going to pull that twin card (if not being an imposter) before I even saw the promo.

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I knew they were going to pull that twin card (if not being an imposter) before I even saw the promo.

Haha, I called it when RH was announced to be joining

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It's a huge ole stinky cop out. Making him a knowing imposter makes there more drama & soapiness. HIm being the dumb, duped twin is such a snoozfest. I should have expected this from RC though, he is nothing if not simplistic

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More of the official story

At Llanfair Irene continues to tell Viki, Todd 1.0 and Todd 2.0 how she transformed her son Victor into her other son Todd, including scarring his face. However, when it came time for Victor to assume Todd's life (and do the agency's bidding), Irene realizes his life was in danger. Mitch was still after Todd. So she came up with the plan to alter Victor, Jr.'s face to resemble Walker Laurence. Todd 2.0 struggles to comprehend what Irene is saying as Irene turns to him with a smile. He is her beloved son, Victor. She then coldly glances at Todd 1.0. And he is the real Todd. (Gee, not hard to see who her favorite is!) Todd 2.0 can't believe it. He appeals to Viki; this is a lie! He knows who he is! Irene reminds Victor that he has been brainwashed by the best. Upset Todd 2.0 demands John arrest Irene. Viki tells Todd 2.0 how sorry she is as Todd 2.0 -- devastated -- says that Victor is not his name. Irene gloats that her plan worked better than she had hoped. Victor convinced everyone he was Walker and when Starr picked up that he was "Todd," he was ready to assume Todd's life. Desperate Todd 2.0 keeps telling Viki it's a lie as Viki tenderly touches his shoulder. Irene praises Todd 2.0 saying he became Todd and helped the agency with all kinds of nasty jobs. Then she does her best Scooby Doo imitation, saying this plan would have worked if John hadn't meddled!

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Its probably the most compelling story on a soap since the baby switch on Days a few years back. Sadly its a story they could have played out I think for a long time but its been rushed likely due to the original cancallation and TSJ's departure.

It was probably the most compelling. Now it's a big fat joke.

This so reminds me of how everyone was praising OLTL for Kish and then RC starts to tie it to the mayoral campaign and another round of Viki vs Dorian which the audience eats up and THEN...

As Cheap21 posted, EPIC fail.

Maybe I'm wrong and the taste of soap fans is really as poor as ABC thinks, but I suspect the ratings start to FALL back down again after this mess sinks in. That's what happened after RC screwed up his serious gay story/mayor story with his campy Dorian fakes being a lesbian crap.

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Just watching the episode now. LOL at first I thought Madame Delphina"s "sorry about the cancellation" and Roxy's "what cancellation?'' was in reference to the Prospect Park deal.

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Irene had Victor get plastic surgery after going though the trouble of giving him the Todd scar? WTF? She didnt look at Mitch's file before that?

Some CIA operative!

LMAO at her smiling and happy to see her beloved Victor and then putting on a sourpuss face and looking at RH and saying "You are Todd"

Unless...she only said RH was Todd b/c she's still intent on Victor, Jr. getting his share of Victor's inheritance. ;-)

I find it fascinating, though, that Irene is so willing to disown Todd based on past behavior, but apparently unwilling to take into account the fact that Peter Manning abused him throughout his childhood. Shouldn't she feel sorry that she allowed Peter to do that to her child? Doesn't she wonder, "If only *I* had raised him in the first place....!"?

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I love Todd and Téa too, both versions, and RC can't rewrite my memories anymore than Guza could destroy Luke and Laura for me.

I admit part of me is very amused watching RC proving so conclusively he's no TnT fangurl. It was ALWAYS an absurd accusation.

He's destroying TnT to prop up Todd/Blair. Oh well, been here before in 2002. Never thought I'd get my TnT back after 2002. Never thought I'd accept a recast. Yet for 2.5 years TSJ/FL sizzled, won me over and proved so popular. It was a great to watch that. But I've learned nothing last forever in soaps.

SalemPlace, one consolation is TSJ and FL know this story is utterly ABSURD. I appreciate their honesty so much more than the mindless cheerleadering. And another consolation is Téa isn't written the fickle slut in this clusterfuck.

I know nothing lasts forever in soaps but if Bo and Hope fans can have their cake and eat it too, why can't I? tongue.png You're absolutely right, RC is proving that he is no TnT fan. It couldn't be more clear to me than it is now. I started to believe some of those rumors which was the only reason I had any hope for this mess. But it is now clear that it will be Todd & Blaire in the end. I just now pray they don't destroy Tea in the process.

I'm glad FL & TSJ know this is absurd. Where did you see that? I've been wondering what FL thought of this mess. I did read that TSJ told it like it is at his event and love his honesty. Even more props to them now for doing an amazing job with these scenes.

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It's one thing to redeem Victor, but this? This is just so sad. Sad for Victor, sad for TSJ, and sad for us.

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