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Adding what MEK said about the writer/producer issue in his Michael Fairman interview:

I don't think PP has ever officially confirmed JHC or LB like they have with Valentini. Unless Valentini only got an official statement because he is also going to be VP.

Well what has PP actually confirmed themselves? Nothing. We only know about the actor hires I believe because the actors spilled it.

Although they did announce FV but he's not available until November right? Isn't he still producing a show at ABC?

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I agree with Hickland that the actors need some time to decompress. Hell, I feel like we as the fans need some time to decompress. It's been a wild ride for AMC fans these last few years and we didn't have to try and sell our homes during a recession. They did.

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Well what has PP actually confirmed themselves? Nothing. We only know about the actor hires I believe because the actors spilled it.

Although they did announce FV but he's not available until November right? Isn't he still producing a show at ABC?

Well there was the series of announcements back in July about Carruthers and LB and I have hard time believing if that really has changed someone hasn't reported it by now. Now technically I don't know if the new contract has been approved by the writers union but that's what everyone is waiting for.

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On soaptownusa's OLTL column, Chrisell Stause (Amanda, AMC) Told many including that editor at a recent AMC event That PP seems to be approaching actors with 4 year contracts with PP and she's worried cause that doesnt free up time for projects outside PP. BUT PP also has numerous TV shows on TV and Is Producing close to another dozen pilots nd also produces film and Music.

I think this goes along with PP telling actors that if they sign they would be also able to do PP film & PT TV Projects. I see this as a good thing and like the editor says It may not be four year contracts across the board but jsut for their main cast

Sounds like PP has the Mindset Of The Old Hollwood System That was in polace from the 20's thru the 60's

Time will tell

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The sorry fact is SNL's parody was not out-dated as all those soapy cliches are still over-used... multiple back from the deads, twins by different dads, husbands popping up out of the blue, over-done closeups with dramatic music...evil twins, doppelgangers... UGH I winced at every soap cliche I could put to a recent story.

It's not SNL's fault a STALE parody from 70s is as applicable today in 2011. I remember when OLTL in 92-94 was getting quite a bit of media attention from Donahue amongst others for controversial and cutting edge storytelling. SNL couldn't have mocked the AIDs quilt, the gang rape or the molestation stories.

I'm late to this, but I have to disagree. I DO agree about soaps relying too much on these cliches--but SNL's parody was lazy. Anyone could have written it in 5 mins from a perception of what soaps are--the organ music, etc, which ahsn't been used since the early 70s (and never was used on AMC). Nothing was actually a satire of AMC itself--or even modern soaps--yes we get these shock moments but one reason soap stories seem so cliche when you relate them is it's very different when you see them day to day over a long period of time.

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That makes sense. They're going into this having to recast I'm going to guess up to five roles for each show, probably more for AMC. And also new characters to fill gaps. They are going to want a stable main cast or the wheels will instantly fall off. They don't need people agreeing to appear on a recurring status and then booking a primetime gig and leaving the show. I would only agree to that in order to craft an exit story or in special cases. But overall they do need a stable cast.

Another question, is it smart to assume that OLTL will probably continue production on the new series without much of a gap? It seems like they do have so much to work on for AMC. I can't see AMC being ready for January, but thats not a bad thing. Launch OLTL which is in good shape, let it do well and bring AMC out when it's 100% ready. No point in rushing through AMC and letting it fail.

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Well what has PP actually confirmed themselves? Nothing. We only know about the actor hires I believe because the actors spilled it.

I believe PP did release the press release on ES, KDP, ME and TK.

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I'm late to this, but I have to disagree. I DO agree about soaps relying too much on these cliches--but SNL's parody was lazy. Anyone could have written it in 5 mins from a perception of what soaps are--the organ music, etc, which ahsn't been used since the early 70s (and never was used on AMC). Nothing was actually a satire of AMC itself--or even modern soaps--yes we get these shock moments but one reason soap stories seem so cliche when you relate them is it's very different when you see them day to day over a long period of time.

And thats the issue with soaps, because that parody totally applies and is relevent to todays piss poor state of soaps. and i disagree with the last part of your post, it is relevent to modern soaps and they are so overdone that rarely do the moments matter or different when you watch the shows daily.

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And thats the issue with soaps, because that parody totally applies and is relevent to todays piss poor state of soaps. and i disagree with the last part of your post, it is relevent to modern soaps and they are so overdone that rarely do the moments matter or different when you watch the shows daily.

I honestly think that the people on this board have spent more time thinking about that sketch than the SNL writers did. To me it was just one of the many silly little generic throwaway sketches that usually tend to come on after the monologue or in the last 15 minutes of the show. It doesn't matter whether it was relevant or true or even funny because it was just time killing filler filled with low hanging fruit.

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That's pretty much exactly it. They knew AMC was ending, and used it as an opportunity to crank out a sketch in three minutes that has been done to death--there was nothing unique about it (and I'm one of the few who actually found a lot quite funny in this week's episode--though I'm sure it helped that my friend and I were watching after a couple of bottles of wine). It felt like one of those time filler sketches they often have at the end of the show--exactly.

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On soaptownusa's OLTL column, Chrisell Stause (Amanda, AMC) Told many including that editor at a recent AMC event That PP seems to be approaching actors with 4 year contracts with PP and she's worried cause that doesnt free up time for projects outside PP. BUT PP also has numerous TV shows on TV and Is Producing close to another dozen pilots nd also produces film and Music.

I think this goes along with PP telling actors that if they sign they would be also able to do PP film & PT TV Projects. I see this as a good thing and like the editor says It may not be four year contracts across the board but jsut for their main cast

Sounds like PP has the Mindset Of The Old Hollwood System That was in place from the 20's thru the 60's

Time will tell

I just read that column and if what Chrishell said is true, I agree the AMC folks shouldn't sign. They're in LA and have a bunch of other options, especially the young ones like Chrishell, Jacob, Stephanie, Cornelius, etc...the OLTL folks don't have as many options unless they want to do theatre and if you look at who's signed, it's all people
of a certain age
who ummm...aren't going to do theatre.

PP is just a big unknown at this point so I can see someone like Chrishell saying "If I'm going to deal with the unknown, I might as well stay out here and audition." I'm getting the feeling that PP is coming at this like they're already an established player instead of the new venture they are. It feels like all those internet startups from the 90s who made crazy promises then flamed out.
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Meanwhile, I could have done a MUCH better Susan Lucci.

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