Castle, Dancing with the Stars, Hot in Cleveland, talk shows, etc...

Hot in Cleveland was almost completely cuz of Lucci (Before they even knew about the crossover potential the joke was always that Susan got the Emmy over whoever plays the ex soap actress on Cleveland), MEK was featured heavily too but he's a somewhat known figure--and especially would be toHiC's core audience (the way the Buchanen men were when Roseanne fantasized about them). Castle I think Frons may have played some part but it is true the show is filmed in LA, and Rebecca was just on that skating show (not that anyone seemed to watch that). Dancing with the Stars, I would argue too that Lucci was a natural choice who they probably wanted from the start, Aiden Turner I have no clue about, Brott has his whole backstory, and Cam M prob had as much to do with his role on GMA and other talk/news shows.

Obviously ABC should have had an OLTL person promoted on Dancing as well, but I'm not sure who they would have. Would Michael Easton have done it? I kinda doubt Erika or even Robin would... This is all silly argument of course, but I think at least some of it can be fairly rationally justified from the perspective of those shows.

Regarding FV supervising both shows, I've always wondered if he really has any strong interest in the tone or style of the show or not. Malone II, Higley, and RC are very different in style and tone (the only common thread is offputting views on rape/abuse).

Yeah, he seems to get along well with his various writers--and has more vision for the show (for good and bad) then I see from JHC at AMC, but, I think you have a fair point. There is gossip about his obsession with auditioning guys in their underwear, etc, or whatever--some of that I think is stigma for the fact he's openly gay--and it's true that screentests, though not auditions, usually at least involve the guys taking their shirts off, but I do get a sense some of that is from him and not just RC.

FV is openly gay? Since when?

Hot in Cleveland was almost completely cuz of Lucci (Before they even knew about the crossover potential the joke was always that Susan got the Emmy over whoever plays the ex soap actress on Cleveland), MEK was featured heavily too but he's a somewhat known figure--and especially would be toHiC's core audience (the way the Buchanen men were when Roseanne fantasized about them). Castle I think Frons may have played some part but it is true the show is filmed in LA, and Rebecca was just on that skating show (not that anyone seemed to watch that). Dancing with the Stars, I would argue too that Lucci was a natural choice who they probably wanted from the start, Aiden Turner I have no clue about, Brott has his whole backstory, and Cam M prob had as much to do with his role on GMA and other talk/news shows.

Obviously ABC should have had an OLTL person promoted on Dancing as well, but I'm not sure who they would have. Would Michael Easton have done it? I kinda doubt Erika or even Robin would... This is all silly argument of course, but I think at least some of it can be fairly rationally justified from the perspective of those shows.

I'm not sure what people are expecting as part of this brand new day for OLTL. Do they think that now Erika Slezak will co-host The View or that the next time a show like Castle asks for a soap star, they'll get KDP. As for DWTS, let's be honest, other than SuLu the soap stars on there are filler. (I say that as somebody who is tuning in for the first time for JRM.) I don't know what's really going to be different in the real world. It's not like OLTL is going to become some kind of media sensation. I suppose it could happen on Bravo but does anyone think OLTL is going to supplant the Real Housewives? What's basically happened is that AMC without Lucci is just as obscure as OLTL. Yay for equality?

Would the red-headed stepchild thing go away if Michael Easton did DWTS? (In the name of all that's holy, please don't let that happen!) Would OLTL finally be vidicated?

The only time it really annoyed me was when they had the Castle episode with Budig and Mathison.

I'm not sure what people are expecting as part of this brand new day for OLTL. Do they think that now Erika Slezak will co-host The View or that the next time a show like Castle asks for a soap star, they'll get KDP. As for DWTS, let's be honest, other than SuLu the soap stars on there are filler. (I say that as somebody who is tuning in for the first time for JRM.) I don't know what's really going to be different in the real world. It's not like OLTL is going to become some kind of media sensation. I suppose it could happen on Bravo but does anyone think OLTL is going to supplant the Real Housewives? What's basically happened is that AMC without Lucci is just as obscure as OLTL. Yay for equality?

Would the red-headed stepchild thing go away if Michael Easton did DWTS? (In the name of all that's holy, please don't let that happen!) Would OLTL finally be vidicated?

If Castle needed someone to play a male corpse ME would fit perfectly. He did play a vampire at one time.

And I don't get why the Hot in Cleveland thing is brought up. Luccis name had been mentioned on the show long before she was ever slated to appear as one of the characters is an out of work soap actress.

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The only time it really annoyed me was when they had the Castle episode with Budig and Mathison.

The simplest explanation for that is that it was just logistics. AMC and Castle tape in LA. If AMC had still been taping in NY, then the gig would've gone to someone on GH, It had nothing to do with some grand conspiracy to keep OLTL down. And honestly most of the people who watch Castle had no idea who RB and CM were.

The simplest explanation for that is that it was just logistics. AMC and Castle tape in LA. If AMC had still been taping in NY, then the gig would've gone to someone on GH, It had nothing to do with some grand conspiracy to keep OLTL down. And honestly most of the people who watch Castle had no idea who RB and CM were.

Agreed. The fact both were on Dancing/Skating with the "Stars" might have played a factor too, but it would have gone to a GH star otherwise absolutely.

FV is openly gay? Since when?

Oh... He's not? LOL I assumed...

No doubt, I think he is gay, but openly? I don't think so.

Would the red-headed stepchild thing go away if Michael Easton did DWTS? (In the name of all that's holy, please don't let that happen!) Would OLTL finally be vidicated?

I don't think it'll ever go away. I even see some of the trumping (i'm gonna regret this...) of fans going on about OLTL's ratings right now is because they see it as some sort of vindication.

I still laugh when I think of the ending for OLTL someone on here once suggested, with Agnes Nixon coming on screen, closing some dinky little paperback scrapbook with One Life to Live scrawled on the front, and saying "You are ALL my red-headed step children" as she closes the book.

The simplest explanation for that is that it was just logistics. AMC and Castle tape in LA. If AMC had still been taping in NY, then the gig would've gone to someone on GH, It had nothing to do with some grand conspiracy to keep OLTL down. And honestly most of the people who watch Castle had no idea who RB and CM were.

It was just jarring mostly because of the episode title, and Fillion's history, and yet, there is Rebecca Budig...again.

AFAIC, Frank signing is good news. He is responsible for making that show lean, mean and tough production-wise. We always hear these little stories fans balloon into giant conspiracies, and maybe his management style is a little Machiavellian at times, but invariably the actors always come out of it gushing about him for some reason, no matter how much their fanbase hates him. Ask yourself why, then remember that he had to be EP of ABC's least valued soap, not prom queen. He did it well and I think he'll continue to do so. I wanted him onboard as EP - HW I'd rather we get someone new.

He is a gay exec, but I've never heard any real stories about him going all Paul Rauch on the male talent - just bitchy little comments that people think are the soul of wit whenever you have gay personnel on a soap opera. He's gay therefore all the men are constantly shirtless - just like on every other soap opera.

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It was just jarring mostly because of the episode title, and Fillion's history, and yet, there is Rebecca Budig...again.

Budig is definitety Frons. Heck they could have had Lucci or how about Jamie Lunar who actually has a face people might recognize.

I want to see how Budig does at PP if she goes without her main fanboy around.

I wanted him onboard as EP - HW I'd rather we get someone new.

Too bad Christians don't live under the Old Testament anymore. Otherwise, we could sacrifice the fattest calf.