I think Erica and Jack should just have an Oprah/Steadman kinda thing (no jokes, please). A wedding does nothing for me. Frankly, I think they should be in an open relationship dating other people, just each other's main squeeze or whatever. Let Erica deal with that. That shows more character growth than marriage. if character growth is something we even care about here.

I think Erica and Jack should just have an Oprah/Steadman kinda thing (no jokes, please). A wedding does nothing for me. Frankly, I think they should be in an open relationship dating other people, just each other's main squeeze or whatever. Let Erica deal with that. That shows more character growth than marriage. if character growth is something we even care about here.

Exactly. Why does she have to get married at all? What year is this? After all the times that grown ass woman has walked down the aisle I would love for her to say, "You know, I'm just not in the mood to do that again."

I think Erica and Jack should just have an Oprah/Steadman kinda thing (no jokes, please). A wedding does nothing for me. Frankly, I think they should be in an open relationship dating other people, just each other's main squeeze or whatever. Let Erica deal with that. That shows more character growth than marriage. if character growth is something we even care about here.

I love that idea yeah!!!

It would be nice seeing one kickass female on daytime not be tied to or need a man. Erica never has but I love the Oprah analogy. Erica is to Oprah as Jack is to Stedman.

Exactly. Why does she have to get married at all? What year is this? After all the times that grown ass woman has walked down the aisle I would love for her to say, "You know, I'm just not in the mood to do that again."

I don't think they need to but I don't think the votes on SID have a thing to do with Erica needing to or not its that people robovoting in those polls don't care about Erica in a wedding. I would guarantee if it were a poll about a big romantic remarriage or reaffirmation of Zendall's wedding vows, that poll would have gone over the top with approval.

It's funny/sad how much Daytime programming is commercials. I believe the rule is in primetime it has to be something like 41-42 mins of programming, and in daytime it is about 36 (Canada it's the same as primetime which is why they stuff the dcommercials when they air the soaps and other US daytime stuff with boring PSAs, or local news bits--we used to get a soap gossip/letter reading show between AMC and OLTL but it was replaced by a fitness/heatlh thing due to budget lol). Of course 30 years back or so I believe daytime was at least 42 mins, and primetime at least 45.

I am pretty sure we have the Reagan Administration to thank for all these commercials. In 1984 the FCC eliminated regulations about commercial content, the infomercial was born, commercials started growing in regular shows, and the quality of TV dropped. All hail the free market!

I don't think they need to but I don't think the votes on SID have a thing to do with Erica needing to or not its that people robovoting in those polls don't care about Erica in a wedding. I would guarantee if it were a poll about a big romantic remarriage or reaffirmation of Zendall's wedding vows, that poll would have gone over the top with approval.

Yeah I know. SID polls are pretty meaningless.

I think Erica and Jack should just have an Oprah/Steadman kinda thing (no jokes, please). A wedding does nothing for me. Frankly, I think they should be in an open relationship dating other people, just each other's main squeeze or whatever. Let Erica deal with that. That shows more character growth than marriage. if character growth is something we even care about here.

IA on the Oprah/Steadman analogy. Id want that as well

Lucci's not sure that Erica should have a man that helps her live happily ever after. She says is Erica ever truly capable of being truly happy? Can any man really satisy her?

YES. That's just it: Erica is capable of being truly happy. She can be satisfied with a man. If we're capable of it, then so is she. After all, that's the Everywoman-like quality about Erica that made her THE face of modern soap opera. But these writers - and yes, Agnes, I'm including you in this - simply refuse to let the poor girl evolve. They'd rather keep Erica like she was all those damn years ago, past the point where her behavior turned from empathetic to just plain pathetic.

An emotionally stable and (less in-)secure Erica (who appreciates her age, instead of living in virtual denial of it) still can drive story without sacrificing her femininity or her sensuality. It might involve more interactions with other generations of Kane women, but it can be done!

I can see Lucci being involved in the online venture. If they let her go to LA a small number of times a year and shoot for a reasonably short period of time, I can see her saying yes.

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Agreed, and I think that's how they'll have to handle it. Obviously PP knows she's a HUGE part of the draw though so will probably do all they can.

I can see Lucci being involved in the online venture. If they let her go to LA a small number of times a year and shoot for a reasonably short period of time, I can see her saying yes.

Yeah, I see this too. I am not quite sure how Prospect Park can even think of relaunching this thing without Susan for at least a little while.

I would love to see Jack pop the question and have Erica reflect on her life, her men, her choices - and say no. That she has finally realized the reason shes been through all of this is because she felt the need to have a husband in order to be happy, but that she now sees she can be happy and live alone. That a husband wont complete her, but that she would like to date Jack after spending time alone and see where it goes.

I'd be ok with that actually, too. Jack has never seemed like the love of Erica's life. The *companion* of her life, as odd as that sounds, sure, but not great love. And why at this point should she have one?

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My thing is I think Jack's kind of a boring wet blanket with Erica, I really preferred my dude Dimitri. I realize that Erica is Erica and Erica has to be the Erica in the relationship, but I think it would have been really interesting if she'd had at least one celebrity relationship (as celebrities do) with a dynamic, charismatic famous actor or musician about her age. Sort of like Barbra Streisand and James Brolin, but not Brolin's Caleb-likeness. A guy more cocky, vain, insecure, passionate, sensitive, and altogether eff'd up whose star isn't shining so bright any more. A role you could imagine someone like James Farentino in. I would like to see him staying with her in Pine Valley, and Erica flying out to L.A. to be with him and sort of opening up the canvas like her days in New York where some new characters were introduced. I mean, have we ever really watched Erica try to fix a man or be motherly to a man? To cry over a man for reasons that didn't directly involve her? To get fed up with taking some guy's [!@#$%^&*] and threatening to walk with no regrets? I think there could be some fascinating never seen before shades of Erica.

Well isn't Mike Roy coming back? (Don't answer that, I've avoided spoilers). I started watching just shortly after Dimitri's Natalie wedding disaster, so I do always think of her with Dimitri. I remember fondly her fighting with him on the way to a businesstrip with him in the back of a limo, her shaving him in the hunting lodge, and the whole Budapest adventure (when will that finally be on youtube??? I'd pay good money just to see Helga fall off a roof again), no to mention the post Kendall stuff. So to me he seems Erica's only major love, but I'm sure everyone is relative about that. Jack does seem--like I said--more like a companion, a great friend who sometimes gets benefits.

You're right that we've never seen Erica in, particularly, a slightly more maternal role to a man she loved (except I suppose Josh's death scene, and some of the material with Mark, which is different...)

i definitely thought of Mark because I also thought of the added element of addiction, but been there done that, and I'm fanfickin' any darn way. It's so funny that you mention Erica shaving Dimitri because I totally thought about that today watching those scenes with Zach and Kendall, that Kendall should shave him like Erica did Dimitri.