GH: July Discussion Thread

[JaneAusten]

I don't like or dislike Siobhan but I honestly don't get all the hate for her. It reminds me of what they did to Sam to try and Sell Liz and Jason. And it's backfiring on me because Liz and now Lucky have become 2 of the most unrootable characters on this show. Both the actors come across so sanctimonious in their portrayals, especially JJ, it makes it so difficult to like either of them. No amount of drug abuse, reminders of a kids death is going to change any of that for me. If this is any example of the new writing, this writer has the same heavy handed approach that made me root for Sam and then Lucky way back. I guess I am supposed to find it so so wonderful that Liz is willing to sacrifice and go back to work for the good of the hospital or that Lucky, a drug addict, is so so loved and trusted by Liz that he's willing to put himself in the path of becoming an addict again. Wow how romantic.

Helena is wonderful and totally wasted on yet another santimonious unrootable duo.

[dragonflies]

What they did to Sam, was for JASON, but hey its foreplay, Jason took her back, even after her watching what happened with Liz & the boys.

Siobhan was never a rootable character, she's a throwaway character and I guess GW has the brains to see that. She never served a purpose, Lucky doesn't love her, he cares for her, but I don't know how many times he has to drum into her twit head that he's just not that into her.

She's a desperate, pathetic idiot who I hope gets killed by Papa Zacchara, especially after what she said in regards to Jake today. That was OVER THE LINE in a big way. Liz should have punched her teeth down her throat for that

[Cheap21]

Yeah Siobhan has ALWAYS been awful. They arent trashing her to prop up Liz/Lucky. She was hated from the getgo by many on here. This is nothing new

[dragonflies]

+1 Cheap

Can't ruin a character who was never fleshed out to begin with. We don't know much about Siobhan, but I have the feeling the harpy we saw today is her showing her true colors. I always felt like she was putting on some kind of act

[JaneAusten]

I think I said I never gave a rats ass about Siobhan . She was only brought on for Lucky from day 1. Her being destroyed doesn't make me root for Liz and Lucky any more than I had before and its exactly the same as Sam. At the time Kelly was allegedly leaving, now they are likely writing off Siobhan. Don't care one bit if she leaves but it doesn't make me root any more for Liz and Lucky anymore than trashing Sam made me root for Liz and Jason. But whatever contains Liz and Lucky is fine. Put their sanctimonious asses together and be done with it.

As for her being a harpy, name me one thing about Liz she said that was not true to Lizs need to be a pathetic victim, to need to be rescued by a man time and time again and to use Lucky. I would have felt sorry for GVs Lucky being stuck with her again. This version of Lucky, I look forward to the day Liz cheats on him once again or he cheats on her. And I was as OGLL2 fan once upon a time, I thought JJ's Lucky might make me root for them again. Well I am but not because I want those 2 crazy kids to find happines, strictly for containment purposes.

[miche]

How are they trashy Siobhan exactly? She is Carly-lite to me and GH consider Carly their best female character and third best character behind Jason and Sonny

[reallyhateskateonlost]

Anthony to Maxi: May I temp you? Not in this lifetime!

I was hoping Anthony would shove a cupcake into Spinnelli's face.

Bye Bye Guza.

[Cheap21]

Liz has had plenty of female adversaries over the years. Carly, Sam, Courtney, Brooke.... The difference between them and Siobhan though is that Siobhan does not know Liz. Today was was trashing her and going on about stuff that happened in the past. WTF does she get off? She wasnt around for any of that! To me she had no place to judge Liz on stuff thats based on hearsay. Liz's past marriage to Lucky....she wasnt there for that. Theres so much that she doesnt know yet she's throwing her two cents in. As for Liz's current "sins", bitch needs to shut up bc Liz isnt doing ANYTHING to her. Anyone who's followed my posts know Ive been critical of her over the last year and did see her use her kids to try and manipulate Nik and Lucky when Brook was around and before when she was preggers. Liz isnt doing any of that now. She's not trying to steal Lucky. She's not conniving and scheme as Siobhan keeps accusing her of. Liz didnt try to murder her either. Her constant cruel words of throwing Jake's death in Liz's face, even going so far as implying that Liz let him die on purpose in order to win Lucky back was not only disgusting and cruel, but downright vile. She is an ugly excuse for a human being. If Liz was actually going after her, she'd be a bit more justified with her atittude, but that clearly is not hte case here. I only wish Lucky could see her for the deluded b-tch she is

[dragonflies]

+1

Not to mention how she laughs off Lucky starting the fire that NEARLY KILLED HER, but yet Liz was trying to kill her. Tis why it's so hard to take this idiot seriously, she's a joke

[Money]

The writing is so blatant when it comes to Siobhan it's like a sledge hammer. They are trashing her to reunite Liz and Lucky and people don't want to accept it because they never liked her. Cool beans since I could care less. However Siobhan was never a raving lunatic under Guza. As a matter of fact, Lucky had no problem moving on with her since Liz was the cheating whore who couldn't keep her legs closed. Siobhan and Liz rarely interacted and when they did they were cordial with each other but not before Liz bitched at Lucky for exposing a new woman to her fragile little tots out of insane jealousy. Now every time Siobhan is on screen she's screaming at Liz, throwing her dead child in her face, making unfounded accusations and being a flat out bitch while Liz just stands there like the tortured victim being terrorized.

Lucky was the one who insisted upon the marriage because he cared about her. Siobhan was the one who tried to get him to back out many times and he refused. Her getting the green card was only a plus because he wanted to be with her. Liz knew it and she resented the hell out of it. Lucky under Garin now barely tolerates Siobhan and every time they show Liz and Lucky we're suppose to root for them to heal from their box of pain and get back together. And I really resent when people talk trash about her accent because it's borderline racist. It's the same attitude people had when JJ had to speak with an accent and he was flawless with it. I've read so many comments elsewhere where posters are wishing she would get back on her boat back to Ireland and take her accent with her.

Honestly, I could care less about Siobhan but Liz has once again become a sanctimonious bitch who knows if Lucky had to choose he would choose her and her and their "family". And all this bullshit about Lucky needing her on the inside is just that.

Elizabeth needs redemption because the stench of her whoring around the last few years still stinks and demonizing Siobhan by having her throw dead Jake in her face isn't going to erase the fact she's a bitch. Clearly throwing Siobhan under the bus is the direction Garin is using to make people root for Liz and Lucky again. I have no doubt she'll soon be boiling bunnies and kidnap Aidan in the future. Too bad because most of what Siobhan is saying about Liz is actually true.

[Carolyn1980]

I haven't watched GH in a long time, but a friend of mine who does says she thinks Anthony Zacharra is going to turn out to be Skye's real father, and he already knows it.

[BecauseILoveIt~]

I don't like Sibohoe and that accent, BUT i hate Liz. So, i'm on the fence as it pertains to the friction between the ladies. Good scenes though.

[dragonflies]

Know why I don't give a crap? Cause of how many times Luza has thrown Liz under the bus for Jason, JJ Lucky or whomever else he felt needed propping that day. Luza HATES Liz, that was obvious in the writing for her

Then why are you making a big deal out of it

Siobhan is NOT a fleshed out character. We know NOTHING about how she act's when she's in a relationship with a guy, so I'm holding off saying this is OOC or her being thrown under the bus, but if it is, then I honestly won't care.

Siobhan is such a bore, maybe if they had a stronger actress playing her I might give two craps

[Money]

Having a difference of opinion is not making a big deal because I could say the same about you. You've stated you don't care for the character because she's such a "bore" and you clearly have a bias. It still remains cool beans. Your opinion does not negate the fact that she's now being used as a plot point to reunite Liz and Lucky when for the past year he barely tolerated Liz. What don't you get about that?

[DRW50]

I don't think they are doing this for Lucky/Liz. The golden boy is too weak to be paired with anyone. They are just doing this because they think the show needs women who degrade themselves and are presented as stupid and out of control.

If it was all about Liz propping Garin Wolf wouldn't have told the press that Liz is using her dead child to get what she wants.