B&B: Old/Classic Discussion & Articles

[Jennybold1974]

Amazing job @JellyBean !  Thank you. I've been looking for these episode numbers /dates for a while.

I already had most of them except 1992-1995. As another user mentionned, the dates on imdb are off and the ones on reichundschoen.de are definitely incorrect for these 4 years. For 1996-2021 everything is on Soapscentral and can be easily verified on other sources. 1987-1991 is 99% correct on imdb but we already have them in the vault with the correct airdates anyway. There were a lot of talks about airdates of episodes around #1700,  I think you've figured it out. Still some disagreements about some dates in January 1995 I see. I hope you'll figure it all out. (Could you add a new download link once it's updated?)

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2 questions though.

1) Did episodes really air on Saturday and Sunday in July 1993? Example: #1584 and #1585 aired on Saturday 10 and Sunday 11 ? Can anybody confirm?

2) I have explanations for most pre emptions (often Christmas, NYE, Thanksgiving, March Madness, Tennis, Trials or special reports for politics) but not all of them. Anyone knows why the following dates were pre empted:

- September 7, 1992  //  September 6, 1993 // September 4, 1995  (I assume the 3 dates were pre empted for the same reason. I know Fridays are for USOpen tennis but couldn't figure out the reason for Mondays)

- February 21, 1994

- December 30, 1994 and January 2, 1995 (I assume it's because of New Year,... but they usually only pre empt 31 and 1... can anyone confirm?)

- January 26, 1995 (I know January 24 was pre empted for Clinton's SUA (Unless it was Simpson's trial again?) but why January 26?) 

- May 23, 1995

Edited August 25, 2021 by Jennybold1974

[BoldRestless]

@Jennybold19

 

On the Y&R guide, starting at page 263, there are explanations for most of these: http://www.feuxdelamour.com/guide.pdf

US Open tennis goes on a Monday and the following Friday, so there's always a 3 day week in September.

[JellyBean]

No, B&B did not air on any weekends in 1993. I must have screwed up the weekend filter when I was running those dates. For 93 the only preemptions should be:

1/20 - Clinton Inauguration 

3/18 - NCAA sports

3/19 - NCAA sports

9/6 - US open

9/10 - US open

11/25 - Thanksgiving.

Episodes aired on all other weekdays. Sorry for the confusion!

Let me know if you run across any other mistakes. The spreadsheet should be simple to make changes to, but I’m happy to post an updated version with corrections once we nail down all the dates.

[Althea Davis]

The Boldandbeautiful youtube page is bizarre. They upload without any logic old episodes from 2010 in disgusting quality, thay they had before uploaded in better quality and they removed. They added complete seasons, but with strange final cut version with pauses in between scenes, which are not meant for public. Someone need to intervene. This channel is a disgrace. And now they are going to upload 1 episode a day from 1987... when it's 2021 and people have no patience for anything anymore. What are they trying to do. It is strange and amateur-ish... and this is an official channel. If I they ask me... They should upload the whole show... and people show be able to buy whole seasons for like... normal amount of money... It's 2021.... let fans watch whatever they want. That way they will really gather attention... People will be binge watching the first years. 

 

[BoldRestless]

WOW, big thank you to whoever has been uploading  a LOT of episodes including 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2002... B&B fans are the BEST! 

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[rsclassicfanforever]

I uploaded episodes 1241-1248

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[skebujebu]

Amen sis you said it! Well put. 

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Edited August 26, 2021 by skebujebu

[JellyBean]

Too true. It wouldn’t surprise me to find out the whole page was managed by interns. What I really don’t get is if they can work out the rights to share the old episodes on YouTube, why can’t they put them on Paramount+ in HD with the rest of the seasons? Makes no sense. Unless they just don’t want to put in the effort.

Thank you so much! 

Edited August 26, 2021 by JellyBean

[sheilaforever]

Two things:

a) B&B cannot put this stuff on Paramount+ (ViacomCBS). ViacomCBS must be willing to license/pay for these episodes. The beauty of YouTube is that B&B can basically run their private channel without any fee and get some cents from the ad revenue coming from streaming these episodes instead. It's surely reallly low income but somehow this seems to be line with their original Union and/por cast & crew contracts which actually amazes me...

a) maybe the obligation to pay or the amount of royalties are different if B&B releases these episodes by themselves and gets ad revenue from YouTube and does not receive any licensing fees from ViacomCBS?

[JellyBean]

That makes sense. Maybe a dedicated streaming site of their own would be better than YouTube.

[j swift]

Agreed

But, can we also talk about the bizarre Owen storyline that seems to be highlighted by the YouTube channel?  The thumbnail is a shirtless pic of Owen in 75% of the videos.  Every week he and Jackie do a photoshoot, while Whip encourages him to look sexy and Bridget and Nick discuss fertility.  The conflict seems to be that Owen objects to these sexy photos, but he never refuses, and Jackie easily persuades him to continue.

A.  What is Owen's objection given that he has no reputation to preserve, and no other viable means of support?  

B.  How do they use these photoshoots to advertise a boutique in Beverly Hills given that they don't wear clothes from the store?

C. Why do they need to do a new photoshoot every week and why do they shoot them in Nick's office? 

D. Why does a small boutique/clothing line hire their own advertising agent/photographer/marketing agency?

Owen starts as a someone with mysterious motivations, but once they establish him as a good guy, they seemed to have no other ideas except having him strip.  It was an odd period of the show and understandably unpopular.

[sheilaforever]

I must admit that this never bothered me because Owen was such a boring character from the get go, so that him sexing it up with Leslie Anne Down and walking around shirtless was a huge improvement and was easy to watch. Wasn’t there a twin story with Brandon Beemer for about two episodes?

[j swift]

That was the highlight.  Beemer wore one of those sleeve tattoo skintight shirts that they sold at malls in his tour d'force performance as Owen's nefarious brother Casper, who was never heard from again.

[Jennybold1974]

 I uploaded them the last days. They are not FROM me though. I used my old computer last week and noticed I had loads of old episodes and somehow I realized some of them weren't in the vault. I downloaded most of them on Youtube in 2019 before accounts were taken down. Some of them are from Nikki's old Youtube, some of them (1996-1997) were downloaded directly in this thread.  The others I don't even remember.

Here is what I added (or improved)

1296

1379-1381 - 1992-09-22 to 1992-09-24

1428-1432  - 1992-12-01 to 1992-12-07

1437-1438 - 1992-12-14 to 1992-12-15

1440 - 1992-12-17 (December 16 was posted twice so I removed the incorrect version and added 12-17)

1446-1449 - 1992-12-28 to 1992-12-31   (1446 only the 2nd part)

1450 - 1993-01-04    (2nd part only)

1451 - 1993-01-05  and 1453 -  1993-01-07   (In 2 parts)

1454-1457  - 1993-01-08 to 1993-01-13   (1456 last 30 seconds are missing)

1459  - 1993-01-15   (Awful quality, sorry)

1463  - 1993-01-22

1466 -  1993-01-27

1995 - 1995-03-13  (til I realized it was already there, but it's a different version and slightly better quality)

2262 - 1996-04-04   (first 40 seconds missing)

2425 - 1996-11-21

2441 - 1996-12-17  (could be 2442, I'm not sure)

2462 - 1997-01-16 

2467  - 1997-01-24

2488 -  1997-02-24

2532 - 1997-04-29  (more complete and better version than the previous one but still incomplete)

2787 - 1998-05-01

2914 - 1998-10-30) (In 2 parts)

3751  - 2002-03-08  

3809 - 2002-05-30 

3893-3894-3895-3896  - 2002-10-01 to 2002-10-04  (were already in the vault but these have better quality)

3902-3903 - 2002-10-14 and 2002-10-15   (3903 was already in the vault but only in French)

3906 - 2002-10-18 

3953  - 2002-12-27

 

October 2022 is still a mess between 3896 ad 3902. Seems like some english episodes dont match with the French and German versions. I know some numbers are incorrect and 1 or 2 episodes are missing but I couldn't figure it out. @rsclassicfanforever if you have episodes #3896-3902 in German could you add them to German folder please?

Also note #1592 (1993-07-26) is incorrect. #1595 is posted twice. #1592 is not there.

Feel free to delete all these 1992-1993 episodes once the better versions come.

 

I also wanted to add 4075-4125 (2003)  in German (from rscassicfan's Youtube) but it looks like the vault is full again. I was about to upload #4075 but they won't let me. Hope @ChickenNuggetz92 has seen it.?

 

BTW thanks again for the airdates/numbers document @JellyBean Still a few inconsistencies apparently but this is still the best (and easiest to read) version I've seen. Great job!

 

Edited August 27, 2021 by Jennybold1974

[BoldRestless]

 

It's awesome that you saved all of those! Thanks again. I just tried to upload and got the same error, hopefully it will be resolved quickly like last time.