Um, so we have that ever lengthy thread on classic Y&R articles and discussion, I was wondering if we could do one for B&B? I mean the whole show is a hot mess and has been well at least since 2007/2008 and unwatchable but I'd like to think back to when I loved the show 1991ish-2006. A lot of stories liked and/or remember well have now been long forgotten like Ivana's murder and the mystery around it, Macy vs. Karen, Connor(someone mentioned him recently!) Dylan and Michael, CJ/Becky, Sly, Grant. Hell Macy was my favorite character right after Sally of course.

Edited June 27, 201114 yr by soapfan770

6 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

Ridge as the grieving widower is always a super difficult moment for the show because the writers never dared to to the logic step: actually write Ridge off for at least a month. In 1990 he drove off with his bike after Caroline's funeral (which we never got so see which was a HUGE let-down, IMO) and was back in love-story a month later. 

Yes, when he drove off on his bike, I expected him to at least be gone for a few episodes, but there was none of that. The show clearly feels they can't be without Ridge.

I was STUNNED when they just passed over Caroline's funeral. In my mind, Bell didn't want to force Ronn Moss to act that out, lol

9 hours ago, YRBB said:

I was STUNNED when they just passed over Caroline's funeral. In my mind, Bell didn't want to force Ronn Moss to act that out, lol

Agree. Ronn Moss acting got progressively worse during the 1990s.

SOD had Caroline's death and widower Ridge in their Worst of 1990. The write ups are here Classic Soap Opera Digest News on Tumblr - #Best & Worst

Edited September 5, 20232 yr by kalbir

Thats a complete utter lie in the commentary. Thats not how Caroline died. She didnt look good. The actress lost weight and looked very sick for weeks in story. Also the final scenes were very strong. She acted amazingly. These people dont know what they are talking about. Absurd.

11 hours ago, YRBB said:

I was STUNNED when they just passed over Caroline's funeral. In my mind, Bell didn't want to force Ronn Moss to act that out, lol

IMO; Bill Bell thought that Caroline's cancer and death was already too much sadness for summertime. Therefore he skipped the funeral. I don't agree with this choice, though.

1 hour ago, divinemotion said:

Thats a complete utter lie in the commentary. Thats not how Caroline died. She didnt look good. The actress lost weight and looked very sick for weeks in story. Also the final scenes were very strong. She acted amazingly. These people dont know what they are talking about. Absurd.

The death scene was AMAZING acting-wise. The whole plot was kinda so-so, IMO. The weird disease which was not disclosed, then Caroline looked way too radiant for a while, Ridge moved on after her death in record speed. I'd say there was room for improvement in this execution even though it was a powerful story which lasting effect for a long time.

19 hours ago, kalbir said:

Agree. Ronn Moss acting got progressively worse during the 1990s.

SOD had Caroline's death and widower Ridge in their Worst of 1990. The write ups are here Classic Soap Opera Digest News on Tumblr - #Best & Worst

He could be wonderfully effective playing some things, like arrogant or seductive, but if the script called for more....

17 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

IMO; Bill Bell thought that Caroline's cancer and death was already too much sadness for summertime. Therefore he skipped the funeral. I don't agree with this choice, though.

I can totally see that. I was only half-serious about Moss lol I do agree he probably wanted to move on and somewhat minimize, for a lack of a better word, the enormity of Caroline's death and its sadness.

 

17 hours ago, sheilaforever said:

The death scene was AMAZING acting-wise. The whole plot was kinda so-so, IMO. The weird disease which was not disclosed, then Caroline looked way too radiant for a while, Ridge moved on after her death in record speed. I'd say there was room for improvement in this execution even though it was a powerful story which lasting effect for a long time.

Yes, I'm a little perplexed as to why it was the worst death scene. JJ did wonderful work throughout that story, really fantastic, understated acting. Granted, they are right about how healthy Caroline looked right as she died (more or less), even as she was having difficulty even standing up, but again I think this goes back to not making it too realistic and too sad... this is B&B after all.

If the 1996 angel is reading... I have a little something to ask and I really feel bad to do it. You are already doing so much... and I am so so grateful! But I would ask and I think most can agree that if its possible for the Angel to return to the bigger files... Maybe 150 to 200 mb will be perfect. These new recordings look a lot worse on TV and I think the vault has enough space to have these episodes in better quality. We have some of the most boring years with files worth 700 mb an episode... and these better classic years I think deserve better. Of course if its not possible... thats not an issue. Thanks in advance.

25 minutes ago, divinemotion said:

If the 1996 angel is reading... I have a little something to ask and I really feel bad to do it. You are already doing so much... and I am so so grateful! But I would ask and I think most can agree that if its possible for the Angel to return to the bigger files... Maybe 150 to 200 mb will be perfect. These new recordings look a lot worse on TV and I think the vault has enough space to have these episodes in better quality. We have some of the most boring years with files worth 700 mb an episode... and these better classic years I think deserve better. Of course if its not possible... thats not an issue. Thanks in advance.

Which size tv do you have? I don’t see that much difference?

It's not that big...but there is a difference and more pixels. The videoland app looks much better.

2 hours ago, divinemotion said:

It's not that big...but there is a difference and more pixels. The videoland app looks much better.

Confirming Videoland have episodes upscaled to 1080p - and they look amazingly sharp and fresh!

When @rsclassicfanforeverwas providing episodes, he captured them in 1080p also. The current angel uploads in 360p resolution, from a screenrecording I believe. There is a notable difference with pixilation when viewing the recent episodes on a large screen for example. But thankful nonetheless to all contributors! Thanks angels!

I can tell you, that the biggest resolution at videoland now is 960x540 pixels.

they changed their system some months ago.

 

and a few weeks ago they reduced the bitrate of the videos.

 

at the computer they only show SD Quality. I dont know who uploads the episodes to the vault. I download them too and they are better than in the vault.

 

i believe HD is only available at the app

 

but at the moment i am visiting US. When arriving in Germany i can look if i can upload

Edited September 6, 20232 yr by rsclassicfanforever

6 hours ago, divinemotion said:

It's not that big...but there is a difference and more pixels. The videoland app looks much better.

I am still waiting for your contribution 😍 Expecially mustang sally and portofino eppies in good quality 😍😍

I am not saying that the angel is uploading in bad quality its just that we have tha vault and we have space... why not have them at 150 mb and be good quality. I am sorry if I am rude for asking. If its not possible I find it completely ok. ANd I thank the angel again.

For all the people complaining about the quality, I can really cancel my subscription at videoland at any time and the Angel @anon4520 will lose the possibility to record the episodes.

I did not know videoland changed their system ... I am trying to download myself the episodes via some program which is not quite working like I would wanted (in reality it is not working at all hence I shared my account with @anon4520 to record) but indeed the highest quality to download it offers is 960x540 pixels just like @rsclassicfanforever said. It is stupid that HD quality can only be viewed via app. Pity they cancelled Seasons 6, 7 and 8 but I believe it is due to copyrights to the episodes, it terminated for those seasons.

Also, all of a sudden, adds are showing on every episode.. Till recently I had zero adds at the beginning of the episodes.

Why are you threatening to cancel when I clearly am not complaining and just asking if there is an alternative to change the recording setting to bigger files. Jesus. Everyone adds to the vault whatever they have. I added nearly 150 episodes from 2003 to 2005. The way you are phrasing it" I will cancel if you complain "makes it look like I did something wrong.

Cancel whatever you want. Don't gaslight people and tell me I am complaining when I am simply asking a polite question.

I think this may be the end for me in this thread. People are too toxic and ungrateful. 

 

1 hour ago, Pedro said:

For all the people complaining about the quality, I can really cancel my subscription at videoland at any time and the Angel @anon4520 will lose the possibility to record the episodes.

I did not know videoland changed their system ... I am trying to download myself the episodes via some program which is not quite working like I would wanted (in reality it is not working at all hence I shared my account with @anon4520 to record) but indeed the highest quality to download it offers is 960x540 pixels just like @rsclassicfanforever said. It is stupid that HD quality can only be viewed via app. Pity they cancelled Seasons 6, 7 and 8 but I believe it is due to copyrights to the episodes, it terminated for those seasons.

Also, all of a sudden, adds are showing on every episode.. Till recently I had zero adds at the beginning of the episodes.

 

Edited September 7, 20232 yr by divinemotion

Yeah, right, when I asked some time ago for better quality I was also attacked why I am complaining so who is ungrateful here and for what. And I was not complaining, just asked if there was a possibility for better quality, that's all. And yes, they are toxic, just experienced this firsthand

Edited September 7, 20232 yr by Pedro