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58 minutes ago, YurSoakinginit said:

 

I think just Nancy Addison as Marissa Rampal (recast for Nicole Orth-Palavacini) - and Felicity LaFortune, and that was to replace Kristen Jensen once McTavish finally figured out what she planned to do with Laurel (and that KJ was not the right vibe to pull that off). Walt Willey (ex-Joe Novak, RH) joined AMC while Ryan's Hope was still airing. I can't remember anyone else off-hand.

 

Helen Gallagher was briefly on AMC as a head nurse wasn't she? 

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3 hours ago, Leoruby said:

 

This reminded me of something I was curious about. Erica's positive interactions with women who weren't blood. Her and Ellen seemed civil in the episodes I've seen. Then there's Opal's daughter Jenny who was close enough to Erica for La Kane to be ticked she wasn't her maid of honor. Was there anyone else? 

 

She considered Ellen a best friend, and Jenny a protege of sorts. Olga Svensen was always a friend / ally. She got along well enough with Nina and Daisy, mostly due to her close rapport with Palmer. And of course there's Myrtle, and Ruth as time went on...

 

3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

Helen Gallagher was briefly on AMC as a head nurse wasn't she? 

 

You're right! I almost forgot about that.. It was very brief, toward the end of Behr's time as EP.

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Erica seems to only like women she doesn’t see as a romantic threat (Opal, Myrtle).

Of course, as much as I enjoyed the Opal/Erica friendship, Opal usually kissed her ass.

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18 hours ago, j swift said:

 

 

BTW the Erica kidnapping story reminded my of a SOW article about a remote in NYC of Erica shopping for the baby.  As I recall, even the charm of baby shopping in spring in NYC did not change their negative opinion about the story.  You have to hand it to SOW that they never held back their critiques. 

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On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 5:31 PM, YurSoakinginit said:

That scab-writers story, which suddenly turned Travis into a pathetic & insecure jerk, and had Lionel Lockridge sniffing around Erica, really did derail their train. 

 

Ironically, Nic Coster once named his role on AMC as one of his very favorite soap gigs!!

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21 hours ago, j swift said:

 

I disliked Travis/Erica because of how it differed from Sky/Raven.  Sky and Raven were a team.  Two scallywags who stuck together through mystery and mayhem.  Other women or men never had a chance to try to seduce them because there were in love with each other.

 

It was an Agnes Nixon trope that selfish people change through the love of a good partner; but I think it is poppycock.  Erica needed someone who loved her for her strengths, not someone who tried to strengthen her.  Jack, Nick, and Adam loved the ideal of Erica more that the real thing.  Travis, Phil, Jeff and Tom tried to remodel her after their own ex-loves.  Mike and Jeremy were just adventurous flings.  I don't think any of them were "end game" lovers.

 

Erica's relationships with women changed over time.  After years of bitchy cat fights from Tara to Brooke, Erica found friends like Opel and was very loyal.  I never understood why they played Phoebe's forgiveness of Erica off stage once Mona died.  Suddenly, Phoebe allowed Erica into the country club without a fuss after years of excluding her.  However, I can't think of a single guy who really had a lasting effect on Erica's personality.

 

BTW the Erica kidnapping story reminded my of a SOW article about a remote in NYC of Erica shopping for the baby.  As I recall, even the charm of baby shopping in spring in NYC did not change their negative opinion about the story.  You have to hand it to SOW that they never held back their critiques. 

I felt Adam accepted the real Erica more than any other husband- even the nasty, ruthless side- provided he was in control of things. Unlike  other husbands, he would have been happy to let her manipulate others, help her with petty schemes, etc. The problem was she never loved him and he was insane in certain ways. 

 

Jack drove me nuts. He was extremely preachy and arrogant. It drove me crazy in later years how he'd hold Erica to one standard, then ignore the truly heinous things down by Greenlee ((I hated them making her his daughter. HATED it)). I know they were accidents, but almost killing one of Erica's grandkids and later almost killing Erica herself? Even if she didn't mean to, those things happened because she was trying to kidnap the child and trying to frame Erica for a crime. I kinda blame AMC's horrible, horrible writing in later years. Even the ending- him walking out cause Erica wants to make a film instead of marry him for the 500th time- was dumb. He couldn't just go with her to Hollywood and wait?

 

I liked Erica's friendship with Opal, but sometimes felt it was nearly one sided. Palmer commented on it in an early 90's episode when Opal was pregnant. Incidentally, I think Palmer might have been Erica's only true male friend. There's a really nice scene at the beginning of this 1987 episode with them. I like it cause Erica was actually shown trying to be a good friend to him 

 

Watching old episodes, I noticed something that leaves me confused. Brooke was Phoebe's niece and, if I recall, had a trust fund that Phoebe controlled when Brooke first arrived. Where did that trust fund go? If Phoebe was old money, surely Brooke should have been rich herself? I know she wasn't portrayed as poor, but I've seen episodes basically implying her character's not all that rich. I wonder if she had rejected her family's wealth?

 

I really liked Brooke, but I felt the writers could have given her some type of personality flaw instead of trying to make her so sensible damn near all the time. 

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1 minute ago, Dax7000 said:

Erica's friendship with Opal, but sometimes felt it was nearly one sided.

It's interesting that you mention that because I trying to recall if Erica ever mentioned being close to Opal's daughter Jenny?  Opal is the kind of friend who will dress up to go shopping in Manhattan with you and your kidnapped baby; and that's what Erica needed. 

 

Let's face it, her cat fights with Barbara, Brooke and even Tara were much more fun to watch.

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21 hours ago, YurSoakinginit said:

 

I think just Nancy Addison as Marissa Rampal (recast for Nicole Orth-Palavacini) - and Felicity LaFortune, and that was to replace Kristen Jensen once McTavish finally figured out what she planned to do with Laurel (and that KJ was not the right vibe to pull that off). Walt Willey (ex-Joe Novak, RH) joined AMC while Ryan's Hope was still airing. I can't remember anyone else off-hand.

 

 

I liked Laurel. And then I wasn't all that heartbroken that she was killed. I was more glad that Janet wasn't the one who killed her!

Tichina Arnold also moved from RH to AMC.

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Did they ever say when Opal stopped having a salon in the mansion? 

 

(I always thought that was a bit odd...)

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7 hours ago, DRW50 said:

(I always thought that was a bit odd...)

 

You're not the only one.  I'm sure Opal had enough money to reopen the Glamorama away from the Cortlandt mansion.  Heck, even converting the mansion into a spa would have made more sense.

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I wonder why a character like Chuck Tyler got paired with multiple partners but Cliff Nelson never had a successful pairing after Nina?

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Cliff Nelson is from EON, Greg Nelson or Cliff Warner?

 

Chuck's main and most popular LI was Donna, Tara was only interested in him sans Phil, and Carrie was a rebound marriage!

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