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Jill and a man, ANY MAN, is gold. Jess Walton has an easy sexuality that is totally winning onscreen. Jess makes Jill come alive, she keeps her current and relevant. What I would like is for this storyline to develop a la Stefano/Kate on DAYS...what started out bad an manipulative soon develops into love and affection and respect.

But that's not going to happen. Katherine is going to be right, Jill is going to be wrong and both characters are going to end up totally gutted.

Katherine as a character, in my opinion, is far more destroyed than Jill. Jill is at least still, at times, herself. Katherine has lost her edge, her wickedness, her darkness. She is just St Kay of Genoa City and it's unbelievably terrible.

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Thanks for the insight. Both characters seem like they were passionate and deep, yet I see Tucker as shallow and fake. Not a full villain, just sneaky and full of himself.

I guess I better learn to ignore him, no one will be killing him off if Barbara Bloom is the one who wants him in the role. Ashley is going to have to take one for the team and marry him just to keep him away from the others. I don't want Tucker ruining Diane or any of the younger women. I can't see Nikki being attracted to him. I don't want him in the same room with Jill. Even if he all the sudden loved Jill, if spoke and touched Jill like he did Ashley today I would start laughing. Phyllis is really annoying me lately, maybe they should pair him with Phyllis, he would drive her up the wall with his hands constantly running all over her. That would be hilarious, I can't imagine what she would do with all that "passion and romance".

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What I don't understand is why they put Ashley with these aged, wannabe Donald Trumps. MAB would probably spin some spiel about how she is "honoring history" by fobbing Ash off on emotionally unavailable father figures. I know ED is in her early 50s age-wise but, honestly, she looks at least 10 years younger. I have always wondered why Y&R doesn't have her in SLs with people who are in Phyllis's agegroup. Like, it's ok for Ashley's beetroot-colored older brother to hang with them, but not her? She needs some younger guy to rock her world for a bit -- and no, I don't mean that hopeless bore Cole.

Katherine really is ruined, and looks like the world's biggest hypocrite for constantly promoting former pedo Kevin, former internet hooker Amber and the rest of those ill-begotten Fisher strays and their hangers-on. And yet she cannot extend a smile to Jill's new friend?

Look, we've all seen our friends and family date people we did not particularly adore. But -- unless you have serious concerns over that person's mistreatment of your friend, or drug addiction, stealing, cheating and other shady behaviour -- sometimes you just have to chalk it down to personal preferences and suck it up and tell your pal "He/she seems nice" or some such sh!t. All the while keeping a silent but close eye on your friend's behalf, of course.

Katherine can't even do Jill the courtesy of being somewhat supportive, all the while looking out for her. Obviously Colin is bad news, but can we cool it with Kay's All-Seeing, All-Knowing Eye already? How would she know something sketchy was up based on two minutes of polite chit-chat at Crimson Lights?

Oh, and every time someone in GC is on the brink of death, Katherine has to totter her unsteady a$$ to the hospital chapel and go mano a mano with "the man upstairs" like she is God's equal and they've hung out at the country club bar. It makes me criiiiiiiinge beyond the telling of it.

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The worst part is the show doesn't even address that this is a double standard. They just use Katherine as a constant prop. It's so damn lazy to see over and over this storyline about Jill and a man who just uses her and that she goes around like a fool as the "good" people are proven right. Any show where the "good" people are Victor, Kevin, Chloe, Phyllis, Nick, Chompers, and their enablers is just wrecked.

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I really don't understand why it's taking so much to convince people Victor might have set Adam up. Good grief, with the lengths Vic's gone to pull the rug out continously from Jack over the years, planting a little blood and whisking Skye off to Hawaii seems like an easy brain teaser to him.

And Phyllis' crocodile tears seemed awfully self-serving. She's so "distraught", she's still in her hoochie NYE dress in perfect makeup. *eyeroll*

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Well, one day Sharon really acts like she knows Victor did it, practically begging him to admit his guilt....and the next she's telling Adam she can't believe Vic would do that to one of his children. I don't get that. I don't get Jack suddenly wanting the "truth" as justice for Skye, a woman he banged once to set up, when it would deliver the man who drove his sister to her latest mental breakdown out of jail. I don't GAS how much Jack hates Victor---he loves Ash more. He point blank said he HOPED Skye had faked her own death and he didn't GAS if Adam rotted in jail for it. So now he's going to change his tune because Vic ushered her out of town and she died in a freak accident? SAY what?

Vic may be an evil SOB, but at least he makes sense on a day to day basis.

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MAB: Melissa Hayden was like the Tricia Cast of 'Guiding Light' in the 90s. We're honoring history by having her play the part of Agnes, the unwitting woman who sells her baby in 2011 to "Primrose" DeVille (another nod to history, get it?) for $5000. We're honoring our recent history as well, of casting extremely talented actresses in thankless roles.

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Yes, it was! I'm so glad I decided to watch today. She hasn't really changed that much. Ellen Greene as Primrose looks good too. Loved the way she said. "Primrose.................................Primrose DeVille" So melodramatic.

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It's downright freaky how much Melissa looks like Lisa Brown.

I still don't see how those stills of Vic and Skye in the elevator prove anything. They had a convo in an elevator. Whoop-de-do.

And I really don't get Nick encouraging Jack. Other than proving he's not willing to railroad Adam, which will probably prove handy when the [!@#$%^&*] hits the fan in his custody case.

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