Members DeeeDee Posted January 19, 2011 Members Share Posted January 19, 2011 Both. There's a reason shows like Dynasty & Falcon Crest could exist in the 80's but not the 90's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfan770 Posted January 19, 2011 Members Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've always wondered why Beau Kayzer didn't stay permanetly as Brock when he was on recurring there in the late 80s and early 90s. His relationship with Gina may not have been the most exiting story but Brock like Paul was one of the good guys and I've always liked the nice easy friendliness between Kayzer and Walton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members supes81 Posted January 19, 2011 Members Share Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) In terms of Dorothy Green, I heard she didn't know she was being written off the show until she bugged some BTS people on the show because she had a suspicion about it. Yeah I agree Jill always loved John, I find it hard to explain that aspect of Jill's character. I guess, she may have loved him but she was manipulative as hell and was always in survival mode both times she was married to him. One thing I always hated about Y&R was the way it painted Jill as the devil when she clearly wasn't always at fault. When she had the affair with Jack, he seduced her, she had crashed her car and was in shock and vulnerable and he seduced her. Then when the truth came out everyone acted like Jack was her victim. Though John blamed both Jill and Jack and fair enough, he seemed to be the only one to do so. Also Nikki did a lot of things Jill did and yet her kids didn't hate her and she didn't have Kay constantly telling her what a bad mother she is. I guess the show wanted Jill to be an Alexis Carrington type. Does anyone know if Brenda was even partly true about Bill Bell and producers not seeing eye to eye about her character as she stated some years ago in an interview, I know Brenda can be melodramatic, but hearing certain tings about the show recently has made me wonder if there isn't some truth to her story. Here are the clips just posted on youtube the quality isn't great though. Please register in order to view this content Edited January 19, 2011 by supes81 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted January 19, 2011 Members Share Posted January 19, 2011 Beau is a real sweetie (he basically plays himself) but after his first stint he didn't want to stay with Y&R permanently. He's never minded guest stints (the very definition of a company guy) & TPTB have a lot of respect for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted January 19, 2011 Members Share Posted January 19, 2011 The difference between Jill & Nikki? Agency. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted January 19, 2011 Members Share Posted January 19, 2011 Thank you for the clips! Some thoughts: Jamie Lyn Bauer and Marla Adams: STUNNING Tom Ligon reminds me of Spencer Pratt. Eric Braden has had a nose job? He looks so different lying next to Eve Howard. Deborah Adair should have returned as Jill once Brenda was out. These clips are CRAZY. Women screaming, knives, opening caskets, tears etc. Terry Lester 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted January 19, 2011 Members Share Posted January 19, 2011 Eric looks better with extra weight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted January 20, 2011 Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 SOD issue April 21st 1987 reports that Terry Lester's absences from Y&R were due to his role in the ABC TV movie Hollow Point with Linda Purl (Doreen- Secret Storm) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted January 20, 2011 Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 The Dec 2 1986 SOD had a photo spread on 'The It's OK to Say No' concert which was the culmination of the teen pregnancy story. Ex Doobie Brother Michael McDonald was pictured with Danny,Amy ,Traci and Nathan. Lauren is shown belting out a tune. Danny is pictured rockin' on(in full length brocade jacket!) -in the storyline, his exposure to the plight of pregnant teens made him wonder whether the suggestive lyrics in rock music might be contributing to the problem. He organized a concert dedicated to the proposition that teenagers should have the freedom to turn down sex. Michael McDonald performed 'Our Love' and 'Sweet Freedom'. Danny performed 'Be Good to You' with Traci, one of several tunes Michael Damian composed for the show. Amy managed to forgo her telephone duties at the detective agency long enough to share the stage with Danny. I recall Danny,Lauren,Traci et al finishing up on stage leading the adoring audience in a rousing chant of "It's OK to Say No". It really was quite hideous! Michael Damian's talents as singer and composer were on a par... Love Tracey but the girl should never have been handed a microphone... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members supes81 Posted January 20, 2011 Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 Yeah, never was a big fan of the musical aspects of the show, not too bad in the 70's but the rock concert stuff was a bit much. Not being a teenager "ahem" at the time I wonder what teen fans of the show thought? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SFK Posted January 20, 2011 Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 Was Katie Logan like a spin on the Traci Abbott prototype when B&B began? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted January 20, 2011 Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 I guess Katie was a combo of Traci and the original Leslie Brooks-living in the shadow of more glamorous and 'successful' sisters Ashley/Chris/Lorie. A lot of B&B was based on Bell's earlier stories. Snapper/Storm The Logans/The Fosters - father deserting the struggling family. Snapper/Chris/Greg - Storm/Caroline/Thorne Caroline's rape/Chris' rape. Brooke entering the world of the Forresters/Jill and the Chancellors 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted January 20, 2011 Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 Y&R and B&B blue-collar matriarchs Liz Foster and Beth Logan even shared the same name; Liz Henderson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members supes81 Posted January 20, 2011 Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 Hey guys here is an interview with Bill Bell from 1976. Enjoy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted January 20, 2011 Author Members Share Posted January 20, 2011 Thanks so much for sharing this with us. I love the photo of Brenda - she has matronly hair, but she's busting out all over. This is fascinating. I never knew Bill Bell almost took Y&R off. I wonder why he chose to have a rape story start early in B&B too since clearly that was not a ratings grabber for Y&R. I keep forgetting Peggy was the youngest, and not Chris. Your scans are so neat and clean. I have a September 78 Digest recap I am going to put up later, but if it's already up or you've already seen it, let me know and I won't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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